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I really miss being able to render my figures in POV-RAY. This problem has been
reported mutliple times and the home page even states it is not a bug but an
apple problem but siggests it is some kind of configuration problem. Any idea
of how to fix??? What is probably needed is a universal binary. Has anyone
solved this problem? Apple is not going to rewrite the emulator.
I am getting the Pov-Ray unexpectedly quit message that everyone else is
getting.
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"hauskurz" <kur### [at] biochem wustledu> wrote:
> What is probably needed is a universal binary. Has anyone
> solved this problem?
In theory, the application just needs to be tweaked with
a tool such as "Resorcerer" http://www.mathemaesthetics.com
to set the "Application (Universal)" flag.
Looking at it from "Resorcerer," the PowerPC native "cfrg" Code Fragment
resource looks right but the "carb" Carbon Direct Launch resource is set to
"0."
My hunch is that something has to be set to invoke Rosetta (the PowerPC
Emulator) when Carbon Direct Launch is called.
I'm hunting around for a working Universal Application ported from PowerPC to
open under "Resorcerer" to confirm the hunch.
All the best ... /qkrs
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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Any solution on failure of POV-RAY 3.6 on intel MACs?
Date: 23 Dec 2008 04:05:42
Message: <4950a9e6$1@news.povray.org>
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QKRS WEB wrote:
> "hauskurz" <kur### [at] biochemwustledu> wrote:
>
>> What is probably needed is a universal binary. Has anyone
>> solved this problem?
>
> In theory, the application just needs to be tweaked with
> a tool such as "Resorcerer" http://www.mathemaesthetics.com
> to set the "Application (Universal)" flag.
>
> Looking at it from "Resorcerer," the PowerPC native "cfrg" Code Fragment
> resource looks right but the "carb" Carbon Direct Launch resource is set to
> "0."
>
> My hunch is that something has to be set to invoke Rosetta (the PowerPC
> Emulator) when Carbon Direct Launch is called.
>
> I'm hunting around for a working Universal Application ported from PowerPC to
> open under "Resorcerer" to confirm the hunch.
POV-Ray 3.6 is not a universal application. Please see the note on the
website. The problem is within Apple's PowerPC emulator and only occurs on
some systems x86 systems running Mac OS X 10.4 as well as on Mac OS X 10.5.
Thorsten, POV-Team
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I believe I also received the same problem. I do not believe I have an abnormal
configuration of my MacBook Pro. Not exactly sure what that would be?
Any how, here is a copy of the report that was generated (hope this helps as I
just tried to open the application and it crashed):
Process: POV-Ray Mac 3.6 [394]
Path: /Applications/POV-Ray 3.6/POV-Ray Mac 3.6 Folder/POV-Ray Mac
3.6
Identifier: POV-Ray Mac 3.6
Version: ??? (56721408)
Code Type: PPC (Translated)
Parent Process: launchd [63]
Date/Time: 2009-01-17 22:06:05.866 -0600
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.6 (9G55)
Report Version: 6
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000004
Crashed Thread: 0
Thread 0 Crashed:
0 translate 0xb80bcd58 0xb8000000 + 773464
1 translate 0xb80b7007 0xb8000000 + 749575
2 translate 0xb80d49c0 0xb8000000 + 870848
3 translate 0xb813ce79 spin_lock_wrapper + 1981
Thread 1:
0 ??? 0x800bc1c6 0 + 2148254150
1 ??? 0x800c39bc 0 + 2148284860
2 translate 0xb818b6ea CallPPCFunctionAtAddressInt +
202886
3 ??? 0x800ed095 0 + 2148454549
4 ??? 0x800ecf52 0 + 2148454226
Thread 2:
0 translate 0xb8152b34 spin_lock_wrapper + 91256
1 translate 0xb8167dce CallPPCFunctionAtAddressInt +
57194
2 translate 0xb80bdb8b 0xb8000000 + 777099
3 translate 0xb80b7007 0xb8000000 + 749575
4 translate 0xb80d49c0 0xb8000000 + 870848
5 translate 0xb813d75f spin_lock_wrapper + 4259
Thread 3:
0 translate 0xb8152c24 spin_lock_wrapper + 91496
1 translate 0xb816c825 CallPPCFunctionAtAddressInt +
76225
2 translate 0xb80bdb8b 0xb8000000 + 777099
3 translate 0xb80b7007 0xb8000000 + 749575
4 translate 0xb80d49c0 0xb8000000 + 870848
5 translate 0xb813d75f spin_lock_wrapper + 4259
Thread 4:
0 translate 0xb81529ef spin_lock_wrapper + 90931
1 translate 0xb8183633 CallPPCFunctionAtAddressInt +
169935
2 translate 0xb81861e2 CallPPCFunctionAtAddressInt +
181118
3 translate 0xb80bdb8b 0xb8000000 + 777099
4 translate 0xb80b7007 0xb8000000 + 749575
5 translate 0xb80d49c0 0xb8000000 + 870848
6 translate 0xb813d75f spin_lock_wrapper + 4259
Thread 5:
0 translate 0xb80a101b 0xb8000000 + 659483
1 translate 0xb815d27b CallPPCFunctionAtAddressInt +
13335
2 translate 0xb816f06c CallPPCFunctionAtAddressInt +
86536
3 translate 0xb80dfb0b 0xb8000000 + 916235
Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x00000004 ebx: 0xb80bcd30 ecx: 0x00000000 edx: 0x00000003
edi: 0x00000004 esi: 0x80303820 ebp: 0xb7fffa08 esp: 0xb7fff9d0
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010206 eip: 0xb80bcd58 cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037
cr2: 0x00000004
Binary Images:
0xb8000000 - 0xb81d7fe7 translate ??? (???) /usr/libexec/oah/translate
Translated Code Information:
Rosetta Version: 21.03
Args:
/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Support/LaunchCFMApp
/Applications/POV-Ray 3.6/POV-Ray Mac 3.6 Folder/POV-Ray Mac 3.6
Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Thread 0: (0xb0220ea8, 0xb816effd)
0x7ff43868: No symbol
0x7ff4744c: No symbol
0x7ff429ec: No symbol
0x7ff47394: No symbol
0x9545247c:
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore
: _PrivateMPEntryPoint + 80
0x9545247c:
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore
: _PrivateMPEntryPoint + 80
0x910c317c: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib : __pthread_body + 40
0x00000000:
/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Support/LaunchCFMApp :
+ 0
PPC Thread State
srr0: 0x00000000 srr1: 0x00000000 vrsave: 0x00000000
cr: 0xXXXXXXXX xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x7ff4744c ctr: 0x91032280
r00: 0xffffffc5 r01: 0xf02afcd0 r02: 0x9546681c r03: 0x00000000
r04: 0x00005000 r05: 0x00005000 r06: 0x00000000 r07: 0x0085fe00
r08: 0x0085fe00 r09: 0x000000ff r10: 0x000000ff r11: 0xa0269cc4
r12: 0x91032280 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000
r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x00000000 r22: 0x00000000 r23: 0x00000000
r24: 0x00000000 r25: 0x00000000 r26: 0x00000000 r27: 0x00000000
r28: 0x00000000 r29: 0x00879000 r30: 0x15f90d88 r31: 0xf02afd60
Thread 1: (0xb019e77c, 0xb81529ef)
0x00000000:
/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Support/LaunchCFMApp :
+ 0
0x95481bc8:
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore
: _YieldToThread + 532
0x954819a4:
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore
: _YieldToAnyThread + 20
0x852d10c4: No symbol
0x95486df4:
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCore.framework/Versions/A/CarbonCore
: _CooperativeThread + 348
0x910c317c: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib : __pthread_body + 40
PPC Thread State
srr0: 0x00000000 srr1: 0x00000000 vrsave: 0x00000000
cr: 0xXXXXXXXX xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x91039080 ctr: 0x91032150
r00: 0xffffffe1 r01: 0xf0182c90 r02: 0x00000013 r03: 0xf0182d3c
r04: 0x00000003 r05: 0x00000018 r06: 0x00000020 r07: 0x00006607
r08: 0x00000000 r09: 0x00000000 r10: 0x00000000 r11: 0xa0269694
r12: 0x91032150 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000
r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x00000000 r22: 0x00000000 r23: 0x00000018
r24: 0xf0182d3c r25: 0x00000020 r26: 0x00006607 r27: 0x00000000
r28: 0x00000000 r29: 0x00000003 r30: 0x00000003 r31: 0x954819bc
Thread 2: (0xb011cd38, 0xb8152c24)
0x9107528c: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib : __pthread_cond_wait + 1260
0x0044804c:
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/OpenTransport.framework/Versions/A/OpenTransport
: _CarbonOperationThreadFunc + 136
0x910c317c: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib : __pthread_body + 40
0x00000000:
/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Support/LaunchCFMApp :
+ 0
PPC Thread State
srr0: 0x00000000 srr1: 0x00000000 vrsave: 0x00000000
cr: 0xXXXXXXXX xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x910753d0 ctr: 0x9103d45c
r00: 0x0000014e r01: 0xf0101a50 r02: 0xf0101a90 r03: 0x00003603
r04: 0x00003703 r05: 0x00000000 r06: 0x00000000 r07: 0x00000000
r08: 0x00000000 r09: 0x00000001 r10: 0xfffffff1 r11: 0xa026993c
r12: 0x9103d45c r13: 0xf0101b28 r14: 0xf0101b24 r15: 0xf0101b20
r16: 0xf0101b1c r17: 0xf0101b18 r18: 0xf0101ce8 r19: 0x00000000
r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x00000000 r22: 0x00000000 r23: 0x00000000
r24: 0x00000000 r25: 0x00000000 r26: 0x00000000 r27: 0xa0264db4
r28: 0x0011b130 r29: 0x00819200 r30: 0x0011b0d8 r31: 0x91074db4
Thread 3: Crashed (0xb7fff9d0, 0xb80bcd58)
0x8536a3cc: No symbol
0x852d7a9c: No symbol
0x852d6830: No symbol
0x853cfd14: No symbol
PPC Thread State
srr0: 0x00000000 srr1: 0x00000000 vrsave: 0x00000000
cr: 0xXXXXXXXX xer: 0x20000000 lr: 0x8537380c ctr: 0x9106d000
r00: 0x852d7a9c r01: 0xbfffed30 r02: 0x003f1000 r03: 0x00000000
r04: 0x00000000 r05: 0x00000447 r06: 0x00000000 r07: 0x00000000
r08: 0x00000000 r09: 0xa029e830 r10: 0x000005b9 r11: 0xa091dbe8
r12: 0x9106d000 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000016
r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x003fc530 r19: 0x003fd200
r20: 0x003fdb20 r21: 0x003fd2d0 r22: 0x003feb10 r23: 0x15daa5a0
r24: 0x00108920 r25: 0x003fa0f0 r26: 0xbffff6f4 r27: 0x003efb7c
r28: 0x00000000 r29: 0x00000000 r30: 0x00000009 r31: 0x00000000
Thread 4: (0xb009ad68, 0xb8152b34)
0x00446e34:
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/OpenTransport.framework/Versions/A/OpenTransport
: _BSD_watchevent + 44
0x0044bfb8:
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/OpenTransport.framework/Versions/A/OpenTransport
: _CarbonSelectThreadFunc + 204
0x910c317c: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib : __pthread_body + 40
0x00000000:
/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Support/LaunchCFMApp :
+ 0
PPC Thread State
srr0: 0x00000000 srr1: 0x00000000 vrsave: 0x00000000
cr: 0xXXXXXXXX xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x00446ea0 ctr: 0x910876c0
r00: 0x00000000 r01: 0xf0080d60 r02: 0x00464010 r03: 0x000000e8
r04: 0xf0080e34 r05: 0x00000000 r06: 0x00000000 r07: 0x01000000
r08: 0x00000000 r09: 0x01000000 r10: 0x00000000 r11: 0x0046442c
r12: 0x910876c0 r13: 0x00464010 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00464010
r16: 0x00464008 r17: 0xf0080e18 r18: 0x0046befc r19: 0xf0080e0c
r20: 0xf0080dfc r21: 0xf0080e08 r22: 0xf0080e34 r23: 0x00000000
r24: 0x0046befc r25: 0x00464010 r26: 0x00000000 r27: 0xf0080e04
r28: 0xf0080e34 r29: 0x00000000 r30: 0x00464010 r31: 0x0044befc
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"jasonkrupert" <jas### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> Identifier: POV-Ray Mac 3.6
> Version: ??? (56721408)
> Code Type: PPC (Translated)
> Parent Process: launchd [63]
> Translated Code Information:
> Rosetta Version: 21.03
Sorry in advance that I can't offer a solution. Also, I suppose you can't
benchmark something that won't run, but it might be better (if you care about
speed) to run it natively by compiling the unix version yourself. I found this
very simple to do, and it looks like Rosetta performance is about 50% that of
native performance. I'm no expert on this, but only took a quick look at the
following:
http://www.geekpatrol.ca/2006/02/rosetta-performance/
I could be completely wrong about performance, but this seems reasonable, even
pretty good.
- Ricky
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"triple_r" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> "jasonkrupert" <jas### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
>
> > Identifier: POV-Ray Mac 3.6
> > Version: ??? (56721408)
> > Code Type: PPC (Translated)
> > Parent Process: launchd [63]
>
> > Translated Code Information:
> > Rosetta Version: 21.03
>
> Sorry in advance that I can't offer a solution. Also, I suppose you can't
> benchmark something that won't run, but it might be better (if you care about
> speed) to run it natively by compiling the unix version yourself. I found this
> very simple to do, and it looks like Rosetta performance is about 50% that of
> native performance. I'm no expert on this, but only took a quick look at the
> following:
>
> http://www.geekpatrol.ca/2006/02/rosetta-performance/
>
> I could be completely wrong about performance, but this seems reasonable, even
> pretty good.
>
> - Ricky
Triple R - Thank you for your follow-up. What are you suggesting?
Are you suggesting to try to recompile POVRay on the OS 10.5 Intel machine and
see if it works?
Has this been tried successfully before?
Thanks.
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"jasonkrupert" <jas### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> Triple R - Thank you for your follow-up. What are you suggesting?
>
> Are you suggesting to try to recompile POVRay on the OS 10.5 Intel machine and
> see if it works?
>
> Has this been tried successfully before?
Oops. Sorry for such a delay. I didn't notice the reply. My advice though, is
that if you take the "Unix / Linux / Generic Source Code" from the download page
and compile it through the OS X terminal, you should have no problems. I also
thought it would be interesting to compare something likePOV-Ray natively
compiled and run through Rosetta, just to see the difference in performance,
except the old version doesn't seem to run on all computers.
- Ricky
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"hauskurz" <kur### [at] biochemwustledu> wrote:
> I really miss being able to render my figures in POV-RAY. This problem has been
> reported mutliple times and the home page even states it is not a bug but an
> apple problem but siggests it is some kind of configuration problem. Any idea
> of how to fix??? What is probably needed is a universal binary. Has anyone
> solved this problem? Apple is not going to rewrite the emulator.
> I am getting the Pov-Ray unexpectedly quit message that everyone else is
> getting.
I may have a fix from Apple .... and I have delta sources ... who do I send them
to?
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"triple_r" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> "jasonkrupert" <jas### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
>
> > Triple R - Thank you for your follow-up. What are you suggesting?
> >
> > Are you suggesting to try to recompile POVRay on the OS 10.5 Intel machine and
> > see if it works?
> >
> > Has this been tried successfully before?
>
> Oops. Sorry for such a delay. I didn't notice the reply. My advice though, is
> that if you take the "Unix / Linux / Generic Source Code" from the download page
> and compile it through the OS X terminal, you should have no problems. I also
> thought it would be interesting to compare something likePOV-Ray natively
> compiled and run through Rosetta, just to see the difference in performance,
> except the old version doesn't seem to run on all computers.
>
> - Ricky
I got a fix from Apple ... with delta source ... to whom do I send it?
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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Any solution on failure of POV-RAY 3.6 on intel MACs?
Date: 21 Aug 2009 03:09:38
Message: <4a8e4832$1@news.povray.org>
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Sterling Garwood wrote:
> "hauskurz" <kur### [at] biochemwustledu> wrote:
>> I really miss being able to render my figures in POV-RAY. This problem has been
>> reported mutliple times and the home page even states it is not a bug but an
>> apple problem but siggests it is some kind of configuration problem. Any idea
>> of how to fix??? What is probably needed is a universal binary. Has anyone
>> solved this problem? Apple is not going to rewrite the emulator.
>> I am getting the Pov-Ray unexpectedly quit message that everyone else is
>> getting.
>
> I may have a fix from Apple .... and I have delta sources ... who do I send them
> to?
tho### [at] povrayorg please.
Thanks,
Thorsten, POV-Team
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