Howdy, all:

I'm looking for an old raytracing program, hopefully an older version of
povray, which will function on an ancient Powerbook 100.  I spend a fair
amount of time traveling, and it would be nice to get a chance to
precreate images that could be rendered later on my iMac.  The program
I'm looking for would hopefully function on a machine with these specs:

* 16 mhz 68000 processor
* 4 mb RAM
* ~ 40 mb Hard Disk Space
* System 6.0.7

And, if I'm really lucky, it'd export to a format that could either be
read to Povray or translated into something Povray could understand.
Does such a program exist?  And if it does, am I nuts for thinking about
creating simple [very simple] images on a 16 mhz laptop which will be
old enough to vote in a few years?  Your thoughts, comments, and
referrals would be appreciated.

Sincerely,
-- Brandan

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I think I still have the disk that came with a book on POV-Ray, I can make a
floppy of it (It's POV 2.0) and mail it to you. If it has a CD I can donate
my CD to the cause ; )

Josh

Brandan Whearty wrote:

> Howdy, all:
>
> I'm looking for an old raytracing program, hopefully an older version of
> povray, which will function on an ancient Powerbook 100.  I spend a fair
> amount of time traveling, and it would be nice to get a chance to
> precreate images that could be rendered later on my iMac.  The program
> I'm looking for would hopefully function on a machine with these specs:
>
> * 16 mhz 68000 processor
> * 4 mb RAM
> * ~ 40 mb Hard Disk Space
> * System 6.0.7
>
> And, if I'm really lucky, it'd export to a format that could either be
> read to Povray or translated into something Povray could understand.
> Does such a program exist?  And if it does, am I nuts for thinking about
> creating simple [very simple] images on a 16 mhz laptop which will be
> old enough to vote in a few years?  Your thoughts, comments, and
> referrals would be appreciated.
>
> Sincerely,
> -- Brandan

--
Josh English -- Lexiphanic Lethomaniac
eng### [at] spiritonecom
The POV-Ray Cyclopedia http://www.spiritone.com/~english/cyclopedia/

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That would be excellent.  Unfortunately, my Powerbook 100 doesn't have a CD, so
the floppy disk might be the best option.  Alternatively, if you stuff the
program and email it to me as an attachment I can decompress it via iMac and
then transfer it to my venerable laptop.  There is one more thing I forgot to
mention in the specs, though.  Will Povray 2.0 still run on a computer which
can't display color?  The old black/white pixelated screens are a pain in the
butt for some programs.

Thanks again,
-- Brandan

Josh English wrote:

> I think I still have the disk that came with a book on POV-Ray, I can make a
> floppy of it (It's POV 2.0) and mail it to you. If it has a CD I can donate
> my CD to the cause ; )
>
> Josh

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> That would be excellent.  Unfortunately, my Powerbook 100 doesn't have a CD,
> so
> the floppy disk might be the best option.  Alternatively, if you stuff the
> program and email it to me as an attachment I can decompress it via iMac and
> then transfer it to my venerable laptop.  There is one more thing I forgot to
> mention in the specs, though.  Will Povray 2.0 still run on a computer which
> can't display color?  The old black/white pixelated screens are a pain in the
> butt for some programs.

I think that the best solution would be to simply make the code with
simpletext or simiral program, because rendering is pain on so old machine.
Or is it possible to render images on b/w machines?

Jeremias

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In article <B61631E4.3F40%sym### [at] utanetfi>, sympaali 
<sym### [at] utanetfi> wrote:
>I think that the best solution would be to simply make the code with
>simpletext or simiral program, because rendering is pain on so old 
>machine.
>Or is it possible to render images on b/w machines?

I have rendered with, I think, POV 2.x on a PB 170/4MB RAM, which was 
black and white. The image doesn't look nice on the monitor, but it 
looks fine when transferred elsewhere. It was a pain in the *ss but less 
so than using my parent's 486 with 4 MB of RAM.

Jerry
-- 
http://www.hoboes.com/jerry/
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him to fish, and you've
depleted the lake."--It Isn't Murder If They're Yankees

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If you do render something with that PowerBook, you will only do it once. If
you hurry. Why on earth do you still have the thing anyway? Hay, they just
dropped the price on iBooks! :-)
______
David McCabe
dav### [at] maccom
http://homepage.mac.com/davidmccabe/index.htm
Jesus loves you! 

> From: Jerry <jer### [at] acusdedu>
> Organization: University of San Diego
> Newsgroups: povray.macintosh
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:21:30 -0700
> Subject: Re: Old Raytracing Programs
> 
> In article <B61631E4.3F40%sym### [at] utanetfi>, sympaali
> <sym### [at] utanetfi> wrote:
>> I think that the best solution would be to simply make the code with
>> simpletext or simiral program, because rendering is pain on so old
>> machine.
>> Or is it possible to render images on b/w machines?
> 
> I have rendered with, I think, POV 2.x on a PB 170/4MB RAM, which was
> black and white. The image doesn't look nice on the monitor, but it
> looks fine when transferred elsewhere. It was a pain in the *ss but less
> so than using my parent's 486 with 4 MB of RAM.
> 
> Jerry
> -- 
> http://www.hoboes.com/jerry/
> "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him to fish, and you've
> depleted the lake."--It Isn't Murder If They're Yankees

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David wrote:

> If you do render something with that PowerBook, you will only do it once. If
> you hurry. Why on earth do you still have the thing anyway? Hay, they just
> dropped the price on iBooks! :-)
> ______

I use the PB 100 for a couple of reasons.  First of all, it was free, rescued
from the trash at a law firm where I was doing an internship a couple of years
back.  Free stuff...cool.  I also got ahold of a pair of huge Lead Acid battery
packs that had been sitting in a store room in Ohio for a decade or so, so when
I'm on the road, I get between 12 and 15 hours of use depending on the processor
intensity of what I'm doing.  I travel a lot for long periods of time since I'm
in speech and debate, so a laptop is nice.  And if my PB100 gets wrecked or
stepped on, so what?  I kid you not, I have two others that I picked up for a
chump change as spare parts.  Should I buy an iBook?  Heck yeah.  Can I afford
to?  Not without cutting into my beer money.  And plus, System 6.0.7 RULES! :-)

I'm not planning on rendering the Sistine Chapel or anything.  Mostly, what I
want to be able to do is make sure the scene file at least compiles and maybe get
a few simple black and white prerenders to make sure the scene shows what I want
it to.  When I do my real rendering, I crank up the Rev. A iMac, go to sleep, and
when I wake up the next day it's done.  Usually.

By the way, does anyone know how to further compress the Quicktime Movies that
POVRAY 3 cranks out?  I've got a couple of simple animations I'd like to post to
a website, but they're freaking huge files.

Thanks,
-- Brandan



<snip>

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Media Cleaner Pro gives you all kinds of optimization and compression options for
various uses of movies including posting on web pages. I've got a movie on my site
that was originally over 7 MB and compressed it down to 164K! Of course, it's like
jpeg compression and there's a tradeoff between quality and compression.

It's not cheap though, but I believe some company was making a light version of
their video editing software available for free recently and it included a light
version of Media Cleaner.

You might search Mac NewsNetwork or MacFixIt archives for the download URL. I think
I read about it at one of those sites.

RJay Hansen
http://www.2540dpi.f2s.com
rha### [at] 2540dpif2scom


Brandan Whearty wrote:

>
>
> By the way, does anyone know how to further compress the Quicktime Movies that
> POVRAY 3 cranks out?  I've got a couple of simple animations I'd like to post to
> a website, but they're freaking huge files.
>
> Thanks,
> -- Brandan
>
> <snip>

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In article <39FB4642.E4CFD7E3@domain.com>, ema### [at] domaincom wrote:
>By the way, does anyone know how to further compress the Quicktime 
>Movies that POVRAY 3 cranks out?  I've got a couple of simple 
>animations I'd like to post to a website, but they're freaking huge 
>files.

GraphicConverter will let you try multiple compression formats if you 
render to still images: http://www.lemkesoft.com/

So will Quicktime Pro, which will also let you open current quicktime 
files and resave them with different options.

Jerry
-- 
http://www.hoboes.com/jerry/
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him to fish, and you've
depleted the lake."--It Isn't Murder If They're Yankees
(http://www.hoboes.com/jerry/Murder/)

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I found the free download. It's EditDV Unplugged and comes with Media Cleaner EZ.
Here's the URL-- http://www.icanstream.com/downloads/index.html

I think you probably have to fill out a registration form.

Good Luck!

RJay Hansen
http://www.2540dpi.f2s.com
rha### [at] 2540dpif2scom

RJay Hansen wrote:

> Media Cleaner Pro gives you all kinds of optimization and compression options for
> various uses of movies including posting on web pages. I've got a movie on my site
> that was originally over 7 MB and compressed it down to 164K! Of course, it's like
> jpeg compression and there's a tradeoff between quality and compression.
>
> It's not cheap though, but I believe some company was making a light version of
> their video editing software available for free recently and it included a light
> version of Media Cleaner.
>
> You might search Mac NewsNetwork or MacFixIt archives for the download URL. I think
> I read about it at one of those sites.
>
> RJay Hansen
> http://www.2540dpi.f2s.com
> rha### [at] 2540dpif2scom
>
> Brandan Whearty wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > By the way, does anyone know how to further compress the Quicktime Movies that
> > POVRAY 3 cranks out?  I've got a couple of simple animations I'd like to post to
> > a website, but they're freaking huge files.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -- Brandan
> >
> > <snip>

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