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On 30 Mar 2009 18:56:42 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospam com> wrote:
>Show-off.
GIYF
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Regards
Stephen
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: request to increase 700K limit of 'animation' postings
Date: 30 Mar 2009 21:22:30
Message: <49d17056@news.povray.org>
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On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:26:21 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> On 30 Mar 2009 18:56:42 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
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>>Show-off.
>
> GIYF
I have my own friends. ;-) Meet Mr. Caluclator, aka "bc".
Jim
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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: request to increase 700K limit of 'animation' postings
Date: 31 Mar 2009 11:07:33
Message: <49d231b5@news.povray.org>
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Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> clipka wrote:
>> Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
>>> So what is 1000000 bytes in the real world?
>>
>> Hmm... with uuencoding and all, I'd say... something like a 700k file? ;)
>
> Encoding commonly adds 25% (twentyfive) size, thus the actual file size
> limit is 20% (twenty) less than the maximum permitted, thus for 5 MB the
> uploadable filesize is 4 MB.
Actually, I believe it adds 33% and so to get the real size, subtract 25%.
The way uucode and similar codings work is to take 3 characters
(bytes). Write them in binary next to each other - you have 24 bits.
Partition into 4 (6 bits each). Get the character represented by each of
those 6 bits (some shifting may be necessary) to get 4 bytes.
So every set of 3 bytes becomes 4 bytes.
--
(Ice rocks hit the hull) "Captain, we are being hailed."
/\ /\ /\ /
/ \/ \ u e e n / \/ a w a z
>>>>>>mue### [at] nawazorg<<<<<<
anl
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: request to increase 700K limit of 'animation' postings
Date: 31 Mar 2009 11:57:12
Message: <49d23d58$1@news.povray.org>
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Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> Actually, I believe it adds 33% and so to get the real size, subtract 25%.
> So every set of 3 bytes becomes 4 bytes.
Which would be ... 25% increase? :-)
Plus extra newlines at the end of each line. Lines are usually 72 characters
long. (Thank you for 80-character punched cards, IBM!)
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
There's no CD like OCD, there's no CD I knoooow!
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: request to increase 700K limit of 'animation' postings
Date: 31 Mar 2009 14:08:03
Message: <49d25c03@news.povray.org>
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> > Actually, I believe it adds 33% and so to get the real size, subtract 25%.
> > So every set of 3 bytes becomes 4 bytes.
> Which would be ... 25% increase? :-)
You have to add 1 to 3 in order to get 4, and 1 is a third of 3, ie. 33%.
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- Warp
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: request to increase 700K limit of 'animation' postings
Date: 31 Mar 2009 14:32:29
Message: <49d261bd$1@news.povray.org>
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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Mueen Nawaz wrote:
>>> Actually, I believe it adds 33% and so to get the real size, subtract 25%.
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>>> So every set of 3 bytes becomes 4 bytes.
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>> Which would be ... 25% increase? :-)
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> You have to add 1 to 3 in order to get 4, and 1 is a third of 3, ie. 33%.
D'oh! I shouldn't post before coffee. Nevermind.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
There's no CD like OCD, there's no CD I knoooow!
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> > Actually, I believe it adds 33% and so to get the real size, subtract 25%.
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> > So every set of 3 bytes becomes 4 bytes.
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> Which would be ... 25% increase? :-)
How much are 25% of 3? I'd say something like 1.25, not 1.0 ;)
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On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:05:43 EDT, "clipka" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
>Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Mueen Nawaz wrote:
>> > Actually, I believe it adds 33% and so to get the real size, subtract 25%.
>>
>> > So every set of 3 bytes becomes 4 bytes.
>>
>> Which would be ... 25% increase? :-)
>
>How much are 25% of 3? I'd say something like 1.25, not 1.0 ;)
>
>
Give him a break, he hadn't had his coffee. :)
Anyway I tried uploading a 3Meg file and it failed. So there probably is another
setting somewhere that needs changing.
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Regards
Stephen
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Thorsten Froehlich <tho### [at] trfde> wrote:
> Encoding commonly adds 25% (twentyfive) size, thus the actual file size
> limit is 20% (twenty) less than the maximum permitted, thus for 5 MB the
> uploadable filesize is 4 MB.
>
> Thorsten
So maybe the 'officially posted' limit should be 6MB--so that we can upload a
5MB file?? ;-P Then, of course, we will all be wondering why a 6MB file won't
post!
KW
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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: request to increase 700K limit of 'animation' postings
Date: 4 Apr 2009 10:14:20
Message: <49d76b3c$1@news.povray.org>
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Stephen wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:29:03 +1100, Chris Cason
> <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote:
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>>The limit should now be 5000k. I haven't tested it (though I am sure
>>someone will:)
>>
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> I tried to post a 4537K file to p.b.a
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> Server Povray rejected post to newsgroup p.b.a : Articles may not be lager than
> 1000000 bytes.
Unfortunately there is a maze of settings to negotiate: PHP's post limits,
the web news system post limits (which are in several places), and the NNTP
server's limits. I thought I got them all, but obviously not.
I've just re-started the NNTP server in case it did not reload the config
when I told it to. Could someone please try the post again via the web. If
that doesn't work, please try posting a 2mb or so file via NNTP and see if
that works? At least if it does it will tell me the problem is on the NNTP
or HTTP side.
-- Chris
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