"Nicolas Alvarez" <nic### [at] gmailisthebestcom> wrote in message 
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>> "Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
>> news:470b5336@news.povray.org...
>>> Dre <aus### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>>>> Yep, then there are the file associations etc.  All it takes is for pov 
>>>> to
>>>> fire up the wrong version just once...
>>>  Why would copying an .exe file into a directory change any file
>>> associations?
>>
>> It doesn't, I open pov files from explorer by double clicking on them, 
>> they then open in the version of pov that is associated with .pov files.
>>
>> If I have 2 versions of pov, i can only set 1 file association.  It means 
>> I have to open pov files in a different manner and i dont work like this.
>>
>
> You can add two associations, one will be the default when 
> double-clicking, the other will still show on the context menu.

Yep, but again, problem is I have to remember to right click.  I normally 
have so many windows open at the same time and so much stuff running, I dont 
want to have to remember "just one more thing".  I work with computers all 
day long so its nice to get home to a computer that is setup that I can just 
*use*.

The shortcuts/file associations/timeouts are some of the reasons why 3.7b 
wont work for me, if there was no time out, the other issues dont exist.

Cheers Dre

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> "Nicolas Alvarez" <nic### [at] gmailisthebestcom> wrote in message 
> news:470c12e8$1@news.povray.org...

>>> "Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
>>> news:470b5336@news.povray.org...
>>>> Dre <aus### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>>>>> Yep, then there are the file associations etc.  All it takes is for pov 
>>>>> to
>>>>> fire up the wrong version just once...
>>>>  Why would copying an .exe file into a directory change any file
>>>> associations?
>>> It doesn't, I open pov files from explorer by double clicking on them, 
>>> they then open in the version of pov that is associated with .pov files.
>>>
>>> If I have 2 versions of pov, i can only set 1 file association.  It means 
>>> I have to open pov files in a different manner and i dont work like this.
>>>
>> You can add two associations, one will be the default when 
>> double-clicking, the other will still show on the context menu.
> 
> Yep, but again, problem is I have to remember to right click.  I normally 
> have so many windows open at the same time and so much stuff running, I dont 
> want to have to remember "just one more thing".  I work with computers all 
> day long so its nice to get home to a computer that is setup that I can just 
> *use*.
> 
> The shortcuts/file associations/timeouts are some of the reasons why 3.7b 
> wont work for me, if there was no time out, the other issues dont exist.
> 
> Cheers Dre 
> 
> 

You want it to *guess* which version you want?

With or without timeout, believe me, you *don't* want to completely 
replace 3.6 with 3.7b. You should always have 3.6 handy. Especially if 
you want to report bugs; you need to compare how things work in both.

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"Nicolas Alvarez" <nic### [at] gmailisthebestcom> wrote in message 
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>> "Nicolas Alvarez" <nic### [at] gmailisthebestcom> wrote in 
>> message news:470c12e8$1@news.povray.org...

>>>> "Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
>>>> news:470b5336@news.povray.org...
>>>>> Dre <aus### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>>>>>> Yep, then there are the file associations etc.  All it takes is for 
>>>>>> pov to
>>>>>> fire up the wrong version just once...
>>>>>  Why would copying an .exe file into a directory change any file
>>>>> associations?
>>>> It doesn't, I open pov files from explorer by double clicking on them, 
>>>> they then open in the version of pov that is associated with .pov 
>>>> files.
>>>>
>>>> If I have 2 versions of pov, i can only set 1 file association.  It 
>>>> means I have to open pov files in a different manner and i dont work 
>>>> like this.
>>>>
>>> You can add two associations, one will be the default when 
>>> double-clicking, the other will still show on the context menu.
>>
>> Yep, but again, problem is I have to remember to right click.  I normally 
>> have so many windows open at the same time and so much stuff running, I 
>> dont want to have to remember "just one more thing".  I work with 
>> computers all day long so its nice to get home to a computer that is 
>> setup that I can just *use*.
>>
>> The shortcuts/file associations/timeouts are some of the reasons why 3.7b 
>> wont work for me, if there was no time out, the other issues dont exist.
>>
>> Cheers Dre
>
> You want it to *guess* which version you want?

Not at all.

> With or without timeout, believe me, you *don't* want to completely 
> replace 3.6 with 3.7b. You should always have 3.6 handy. Especially if you 
> want to report bugs; you need to compare how things work in both.

Thats fine, but if I totally revert to 3.7 (leaving 3.6 as it is), fix all 
my associations etc, so that 3.6 pretty much doesn't exist (even though its 
still installed) then when the time runs out, I have to revert it all back 
until a new version of 3.7b comes out.  I dont want to have to do this hence 
why I made the comment, "remove the time limit and I believe you will get 
more testers".  Some might say this is all trivial, but to me, its something 
I can do without.  I didn't think my comment would stir up such frenzy!

Cheers Dre

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Warp  wrote in message <470c1ab8@news.povray.org>:
>   Really? I have seen 2 people complaining. Hardly 99% of all people who
> use it.

Oh, an appeal to the silent majority. If you do that, I can not stay silent.

I very seldom install binaries on my box that are not packages from my
distribution. The reason is not only a matter of principle, but also that
binaries tend do be a mess to install and maintain, with a lot of kludges to
autodetect the system setup. Maybe the POV-Ray beta binaries are not like
that, maybe they are, I did not check, as I do not really need these beta.

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"Dre" <aus### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
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> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:470b17ed$1@news.povray.org...
>>
>> "Dre" <aus### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
>> news:470ac353@news.povray.org...
>>
>>
>>> Fair enough, but I get the impression I am on one side all by myself!
>>
>>       Nope, I understand exactly where you're coming from, so you're not 
>> alone.  :)
>>
>>           ~Steve~
>>
>>
>>> Cheers Dre
>>>
>>
>>
>
> Great, thats 2 :)

   Yeah, well, for some reason not so long ago, I reinstalled 3.1g, (I think 
it was to see what it looked like again, a nostalgia thing), and now all my 
pov file icons are of the checkered variety instead of the 3.5 pink version 
even though I uninstalled it. Heh... :)

    ~Steve~



>
> Cheers Dre
>

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Dre wrote:
> "Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 

I thought Chris Cason already promised that next beta can be used after
the time limit, by clicking on some warning. Why are you still fighting
over it? :)

-- Arttu Voutilainen

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Warp wrote:
> William Tracy <wtr### [at] calpolyedu> wrote:
>>>> Linus lets me use Linux any freaking way I want.
>>>   Not true. Linux is bound to the GPL license, which limits what you can
>>> do with it. For example, you can't take the linux kernel and build a
>>> closed-source commercial product with it. You certainly can not do whatever
>>> you want with it.
> 
>> I can can personally use it however I see fit.
> 
>> As soon I as start redistributing it, that's a *whole* different can of
>> worms.
> 
>   Distributing it *is* "using it however I want". You didn't specify it
> as an exception.
> 
	"using it however I want" does not mean the same thing as "doing
whatever I want with it". The latter would include distributing, the
former doesn't.

	According to my dictionnary (Collins Cobuild 1992):

use, uses, using, used (verb):
If you use something such as a tool, service, or a course of action,
you do something with it in order to do a job, achieve something, or
solve a problem.

distribute, distributes, distributing, distributed (verb):
If you distribute something such as leaflets or badges, you hand
them out or deliver them to several people.

	Distributing does not "do a job", "achieve something", nor "solve a
problem" therefore it is not "using".

		Jerome
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Dre wrote:
> "andrel" <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
>>>>> back to lurking, next time I keep my mouth shut, seesh!
>>>> why? the community is split on this and you happen to be in one side. 
>>>> Even if others think this as a holy war, that does not mean it is.
>>> Fair enough, but I get the impression I am on one side all by myself!
>> No, but that may be because many others did already express their opinion 
>> in povray.beta-test and you are not subscribed to that group. It is 
>> something that has come back nearly every beta release for years.
> 
> well maybe it keeps coming back becuase its still an issue!

I don't think so, Chris has promised to change it to something more 
workable.


>>> Its also something that doesn't really bother me that much, I just put my 
>>> opinion in about the time limit and I got pounded with me not knowing how 
>>> to use a computer!  If everyone else is so passionate about the time 
>>> limit, have a time limit, it doesn't bother me, I just wont use it, 
>>> simple.
>>>
>>> Cheers Dre
>> Andrel (who decided not to use 'Dr Dre' because there already was one in 
>> the music scene)
> 
> hehe, my mates call me Dre, its cause they have trouble with my real name 
> (Andreas).  Its kinda stuck now and I dont mind it...  (I'm not to keen on 
> being called Dr Dre though)
But you are a Dr on top of being a Dre?

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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 20:20:09 -0400, Warp wrote:

>> So do the crippled binaries, apparently.
> 
>   Really? I have seen 2 people complaining. Hardly 99% of all people who
> use it.

I'm not using it.  Oh, and I'd love to, as I just got this shiny new dual 
core Athlon 64-bit system.

But I've not said anything because I know the team is *really* busy and I 
respect their time and efforts - and I know that bugging you guys about 
it isn't going to make the next beta release come along any faster.

I suspect I'm not alone in taking this approach.

Jim

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