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From: IMBJR
Subject: Re: JPEG2000
Date: 7 Mar 2004 16:58:09
Message: <mm6n40hod15fbet4e53qjp6emsj6c6i8ok@4ax.com>
On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 16:51:50 -0500, Tyler Eaves <tyl### [at] NOSPAMml1net>
wrote:

>On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 21:53:17 +0000, IMBJR wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 13:38:48 -0800, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>IMBJR wrote:
>>> > get over it and listen to the arguments instead of
>>>> finding yet more execuses to not bother with them.
>>>
>>>This is very common.  "You disagree with me, hence you must not 
>>>understand what I'm saying."  It is quite possible that everyone 
>>>understands exactly what you're saying and nevertheless continues to 
>>>disagree with your conclusion. It's not the case that people here 
>>>disagreeing are not listening.
>> 
>> No. Re-read, you will find these people were coming up with uprelated
>> crap - no actual counter-argument. They were not "listening".
>> 
>> --------------------------------
>> My First Subgenius Picture Book:
>> http://www.imbjr.com
>
>The fact that it's a royal pain and the ass to track something down to
>view the images with (Quite possibly IMPOSSIBLE on my platform) isn't a
>valid counter-argument?  

Well that's unfortunate. Perhaps there will always be some who will be
left behind. You could always develop your own if you so desire.

>
>That's like saying the fact that you live in a state that for some reason
>doesn't have any has stations that sell diesel isn't a valid argument for
>not buying a diesel-engined vehicle.

Your argument is of course completely dumb - such a scenario does not
exist. It's hard to take seriously someone who would use such a
comparison. Esp', in your case - you cannot empirically say for sure
that JPEG2000 is supported by your platform, unless that platform is
unique to you and if it is then more fool you.

Looks like you drew the short straw when they were handing out OSs
then.



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From: Eamon Caddigan
Subject: Re: JPEG2000
Date: 7 Mar 2004 17:01:22
Message: <404b9bb2$1@news.povray.org>
IMBJR <no### [at] spamhere> wrote:
> On 7 Mar 2004 16:30:39 -0500, Eamon Caddigan <eca### [at] uiucedu>
> wrote:
>
>>IMBJR <no### [at] spamhere> wrote:
>>> On 7 Mar 2004 15:12:16 -0500, Eamon Caddigan <eca### [at] uiucedu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>IMBJR <no### [at] spamhere> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 20:48:50 +0100, "Thorsten Froehlich"
>>>>><tho### [at] trfde> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <404b7a76@news.povray.org> , Lutz-Peter Hooge <lpv### [at] gmxde> 
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unlikely, I doubt there is any sigificant market for graphics viewer
>>>>>>> utilities even on windows. So I don't think support for jpeg2k will
>>>>>>> be brought to other systems by commercial software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Actually, on Mac OS QuickTime supports it.  So in just about any decent Mac
>>>>>>OS newsreader and web browser one can view the image inline.  Still, there
>>>>>>is no value added by it being JPEG 2000 and in 16 bits per color component.
>>>>>
>>>>> The value is in the better compression.
>>>>
>>>>And the 640x480 filesize limitation imposed by your favorite plugin!
>>>
>>> It's not my favourite, it's a suggestion. I use Photoshop. Lordy, why
>>> don't you try to keep up?
>>
>>Sorry, my list of software you use was apparently out-of-date. Also,
>>which socks were you wearing last Wednesday? I can't find it in my
>>records.
>
> Such childish rejoiners point to someone who is as lazy as the rest of
> the people here and cannot find the correct counter-arguments so they
> go off-track.

Good point, I should learn to stop resorting to such behavior and keep
my posts on-topic and polite, like you do.

-Eamon


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From: IMBJR
Subject: Re: JPEG2000
Date: 7 Mar 2004 17:08:15
Message: <ig7n40pslmljhduviabitc2iu3te304ear@4ax.com>
On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 13:56:54 -0800, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom>
wrote:

>IMBJR wrote:
>> Don't be so silly. How the fuck does posting a new format and then
>> trying to get a serious debate going about it make for a a flame war?
>
>When you descend to insults, profanity, and fail to address in any 
>serious way the arguments against your preferred solution, it stops 
>being a serious debate and starts being a flame war.

Re-read the entire thread again - I think you will find I was quite up
on addressing the comments. Next time - get the facts in first.

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From: IMBJR
Subject: Re: JPEG2000
Date: 7 Mar 2004 17:09:07
Message: <tj7n40h57dc426k7heg3um0tnujpgk2pas@4ax.com>
On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 13:55:25 -0800, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom>
wrote:

>IMBJR wrote:
>> Usenet uses a text-based medium (yes, even binaries groups are
>> ultimately text-based)
>
>Not really. They're based on ASCII, not text.

Splitting hairs to that degree is making you look pointless. Come on,
better reasoning and arguments next time please.

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: JPEG2000
Date: 7 Mar 2004 17:15:26
Message: <404B9EDA.1637618C@pacbell.net>
IMBJR wrote:

> >You need to read the Acceptable use Policy of this server.  A short
> >excerpt follows.
> >
> >    Users of this news server may not post messages that could
> >    reasonably be expected, by today's standards, to cause another
> >    reasonable person to not want to use or visit this server due
> >    to a feeling of harassment. Personal attacks, exhibiting
> >    insulting or abusive behavior, are not an acceptable activity
> >    on this news server. Likewise, the use of profanity is also
> >    considered unacceptable.
> 
> And what has that got to do with image formats? Are you implying an
> image format is like a personal attack for example?

Is reading for comprehension a problem for you? Your continued use of
profanity in this thread IS unnaceptable and may be a sure way to get
yourself banned from this news server.

Trying toning it down a bit, please.

--
News Admin.


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From: IMBJR
Subject: Re: JPEG2000
Date: 7 Mar 2004 17:18:04
Message: <g58n40tfebj5nfuc9v03143hh21ioocnjc@4ax.com>
On 7 Mar 2004 17:01:22 -0500, Eamon Caddigan <eca### [at] uiucedu>
wrote:

>
>Good point, I should learn to stop resorting to such behavior and keep
>my posts on-topic and polite, like you do.

Good. Glad you see it my way.

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From: IMBJR
Subject: Re: JPEG2000
Date: 7 Mar 2004 17:19:05
Message: <f68n40hd8o14qsl3v0lvq9548tgf0kj240@4ax.com>
On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 14:03:42 -0800, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom>
wrote:

>IMBJR wrote:
>> PNG does indeed give large files and I feel this is maddening because
>> some of use still use dial-up modems.
>
>But high-speed access is available lots of places! Why would we nanny 
>people on dial-up modems? You're just too lazy to pay for cable, obviously.

I live in an area where the telco has seen fit not to cover properly. 

>
>
>-- Darren, not helping any. ;-)

No you ain't. Help or shut up.

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From: Tyler Eaves
Subject: Re: JPEG2000
Date: 7 Mar 2004 17:26:36
Message: <pan.2004.03.07.22.27.59.571458@NOSPAMml1.net>
On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 22:24:01 +0000, IMBJR wrote:

> On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 14:03:42 -0800, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom>
> wrote:
> 
>>IMBJR wrote:
>>> PNG does indeed give large files and I feel this is maddening because
>>> some of use still use dial-up modems.
>>
>>But high-speed access is available lots of places! Why would we nanny 
>>people on dial-up modems? You're just too lazy to pay for cable, obviously.
> 
> I live in an area where the telco has seen fit not to cover properly. 

I think that's exactly as much of a problem as you think my choice of
computing platform is.


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From: IMBJR
Subject: Re: JPEG2000
Date: 7 Mar 2004 17:29:42
Message: <ll8n405168ae1v0rmkdv2qettbocvejrii@4ax.com>
On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 14:14:50 -0800, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:

>
>
>IMBJR wrote:
>
>> >You need to read the Acceptable use Policy of this server.  A short
>> >excerpt follows.
>> >
>> >    Users of this news server may not post messages that could
>> >    reasonably be expected, by today's standards, to cause another
>> >    reasonable person to not want to use or visit this server due
>> >    to a feeling of harassment. Personal attacks, exhibiting
>> >    insulting or abusive behavior, are not an acceptable activity
>> >    on this news server. Likewise, the use of profanity is also
>> >    considered unacceptable.
>> 
>> And what has that got to do with image formats? Are you implying an
>> image format is like a personal attack for example?
>
>Is reading for comprehension a problem for you? Your continued use of
>profanity in this thread IS unnaceptable and may be a sure way to get
>yourself banned from this news server.

I think you will find I understand quiet alright thank you very much,
but quoting the AUP in regards to a file format is definately dumb.

>
>Trying toning it down a bit, please.

I shall. I don't normaly eff so such, but having someone **** with
your posting is extermely annoying.

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From: Tom Galvin
Subject: Re: JPEG2000
Date: 7 Mar 2004 17:31:00
Message: <Xns94A5B22F5DF11tomatimporg@203.29.75.35>
Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in news:404B9EDA.1637618C@pacbell.net:

> 
> 
> 
> Trying toning it down a bit, please.
> 


Such restraint.  Must be another gorgeous day on the west coast ;)  I'll 
take the cue from you and stop feeding the troll.

-- 
Tom
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