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> I hope I wasn't too detailed.
> 

Uhmpff, hey, ABX don't you ever stop :)

Give _The Team_ some rest, a moment to catch their breath. They've been 
working hard. Let them sit back and enjoy for a while, watching the 
download counters go sky-high. They deserve it.

Ingo

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> I hope I wasn't too detailed.

12. Non standard characters used in more info during registration gets
additional '\' character during later display. You can check it on Christoph
Hormann info. Similiar behaviour was already noted for news wwwgate in
http://news.povray.org/povray.general/25215/

13. URLs on user info pages could be displayed as links. Since AFAIK
www.povray.org use PHP I assume it could be automatically verified during
registration if they are really links.

ABX

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Skiba <abx### [at] babilonorg> wrote:

> A few notes about new site. It is very nice but... Some of below points can be
> considered as feature requests - if it bother then just ignore them (I started
> this list before Thorsten's answer).

I will answer anyway to those of which I know more yet.  I will not say
anything about those I have nothing to say/know about.

> 1. Can't find any link on the site like web### [at] povrayorg. It's usually
> public. Was this intentional ?

Right now intentional, but this will eventually be updated.

> 2. In the list of countris in community section number of povers in each
> country could be displayed directly with name of country instead of on embeded
> page to decrease number of generated pages. Sorting according to number of
> povers in country could be possible.

I know.  We are using mySQL as database, and unfortunately it doe not
support subselects.  Performing a separate request via the script for each
country would add too much load, so until mySQL finally gains subselect
capability or I manage to invent another quick way of collecting these
statistics (I have a few workarounds like updating the numbers only once per
day) there won't be any.

> 4. On the Source Code section of Download page there is note that 3.5 was
> released on 8 july while I suppose it was on 9 July (since there was break on
> web page working and timestamp of binaries on ftp server point to that)

It depends on which timezone you are in.

> 5. There is only one search for whole site. Search for links has gone. Search
> for news fortunatelly is separated on news.povray.org but parhaps it will be
> joined with main site. Any chance for advanced search with additional
> checkboxes where search should be performed ?

Yes, those are planned for the near future.

> 6. There is gallery expected. Any plans for object/macro/scene/texture/etc..
> repository asked a few days ago by somebody ?

Plans, yes, time not yet.

> 7. Search field and Search button have different height under IE 5 and 5.5
> than under IE 6 - in result text is a little cuted at bottom.

Yes, we are using the Content Scrambling System aka CSS for most of the
layout, so it may be a tiny bit different on some browsers.  The goal was to
have it work with all browsers such that it is readable, not for maximum
beauty when viewed with every possible browser, which would be an impossible
to achieve goal :-(

> 8. Please consider site map since some pages are linked only once and if
> number of features/pages increase it will be hard to find anything without
> performing search. It is already hard to find links on the pages since dark
> blue link is not very different than black text when hover feature is used
> instead of traditional underlining.

Consider to adjust you monitor gamma correction to normal levels, please.

> 10. Documentation section says that documentation can be downloaded via
> Download section but there is only one 'documentation' word on downloading
> page - in windows section - does it mean only windows version has
> documentation ?

The documentation in different formats will follow in a few days/hours, so
we left that note there.

> 11. Known bugs list missed my following reports (verified with final release)
>  a) sphere_sweep crash
>     http://news.povray.org/g18bguoigilpr5cc14lirhkg7828b49aes%404ax.com
>  b) all components of normal are optional but aren't
>     http://news.povray.org/4jqqhucskeips1ep0aas9c83hucdjm5qpu%404ax.com
>  c) wrong sphere_sweep bounding
>     http://news.povray.org/2g0dcu8kasg84pqde8hdq9d60nkoa1cvka%404ax.com
>  d) problem with logical operator
>     http://news.povray.org/katjhuogjhjptv6nv1dh7rnb11ool6mrs8%404ax.com

At the moment, these bugs are considered not verified or are not bugs at
all.  There have been no unplanned source code changes for a few days prior
to the final release, so everything since then has not been looked at and I
do not know when/if the list will be updated.

    Thorsten

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e-mail: tho### [at] trfde

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On 9 Jul 2002 11:16:25 -0400, ingo <ing### [at] homenl> wrote:
> > I hope I wasn't too detailed.
>
> Uhmpff, hey, ABX don't you ever stop :)

Never! That's becouse I'm listed only in one include file ;-)

> Give _The Team_ some rest, a moment to catch their breath. They've been 
> working hard.

Don't be so modest. You are part of success.

> Let them sit back and enjoy for a while, watching the 
> download counters go sky-high. They deserve it.

Ok, ok! I suppose my post is bookmarked so I return to updating Insert Menu
Bonus Pack.

ABX

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On 9 Jul 2002 11:16:25 -0400, ingo <ing### [at] homenl> wrote:
> Let them sit back and enjoy for a while, watching the 
> download counters go sky-high. 

14. Could be interesting to add such counters next to download links :-)

ABX

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Skiba <abx### [at] babilonorg> wrote:

> 12. Non standard characters used in more info during registration gets
> additional '\' character during later display. You can check it on Christoph
> Hormann info. Similiar behaviour was already noted for news wwwgate in

It has since been fixed.  And the search has been improved at the same time.
It now does a logical or of serach words unless they are put in quotes, in
which case it will search for a match of that character sequence (which may
contain everything but quotes).

As for as www.povray.org is concerned, this will be corrected together with
all other corrections on the site in a few days or so.

> 13. URLs on user info pages could be displayed as links. Since AFAIK
> www.povray.org use PHP I assume it could be automatically verified during
> registration if they are really links.

Same answer as in second paragraph.

    Thorsten

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e-mail: tho### [at] trfde

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Skiba <abx### [at] babilonorg>  wrote:

> 14. Could be interesting to add such counters next to download links :-)

No.


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e-mail: tho### [at] trfde

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On Tue, 09 Jul 2002 17:23:06 +0200, "Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde>
wrote:
> > 8. Please consider site map since some pages are linked only once and if
> > number of features/pages increase it will be hard to find anything without
> > performing search. It is already hard to find links on the pages since dark
> > blue link is not very different than black text when hover feature is used
> > instead of traditional underlining.
>
> Consider to adjust you monitor gamma correction to normal levels, please.

I have it already correct since it is obvious when playing with POV. Perhaps
just my eyes are too tired but I checked a few monitors and asked a few users
about opinion and they all noticed this. Anyway if there wouln't be any other
pover noticing this You can forget it becouse all my consultants are not
povers ;-)

ABX

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> 3. The description under Moray icon on main page is not very well readable.
> Moreover description says Moray works with POV-Ray 3.x while on its homepage
> Moray says only about POV-Ray 3.1 (I know that some peaople work with 3.5 but
> seems it is unofficial solution, right?)

  Moray will probably be soon updated for pov3.5, so that "3.x" is just the
easiest solution. They will not have to update that text when Moray gets
updated. :)

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On Tue, 09 Jul 2002 17:23:06 +0200, "Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde>
wrote:
> > 10. Documentation section says that documentation can be downloaded via
> > Download section but there is only one 'documentation' word on downloading
> > page - in windows section - does it mean only windows version has
> > documentation ?
>
> The documentation in different formats will follow in a few days/hours, so
> we left that note there.

My intention was rather to point that something like 'Packages contain binary
+ documentation + include and scene files' could be added on download page. It
is already written on POVLEGAL but could be not obvious for guests.

ABX

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