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From: Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann
Subject: Raytracing - my story
Date: 1 Mar 2011 15:21:37
Message: <4d6d5551$1@news.povray.org>
High!

Finally I managed to get the English version of the "Raytracing" 
introduction text of my private website online...

http://www.khyberspace.de/raytra-e.html

Currently I don't run www.khyberspace.de on webspace with PHP 
functionality, so no guestbook is available yet; but that may change in 
the nearer future. Nevertheless, feel free to comment and give 
suggestions for improvements (especially as far as language/style is 
concerned - you know, the most common language on Earth is bad English!) 
via e-mail!

See you in Khyberspace!

Yadgar


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From: Trevor G Quayle
Subject: Re: Raytracing - my story
Date: 1 Mar 2011 18:05:01
Message: <web.4d6d7b6fe1cc1419b05ef170@news.povray.org>
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_=27Yadgar=27_Bleimann?= <yaz### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> High!
>
> Finally I managed to get the English version of the "Raytracing"
> introduction text of my private website online...
>
> http://www.khyberspace.de/raytra-e.html
>
> Currently I don't run www.khyberspace.de on webspace with PHP
> functionality, so no guestbook is available yet; but that may change in
> the nearer future. Nevertheless, feel free to comment and give
> suggestions for improvements (especially as far as language/style is
> concerned - you know, the most common language on Earth is bad English!)
> via e-mail!
>
> See you in Khyberspace!
>
> Yadgar

Had a quick read over some of it. Looks very interesting, I'll have to take more
time when I get time.

-tgq


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Raytracing - my story
Date: 1 Mar 2011 18:52:05
Message: <4d6d86a5@news.povray.org>
On 01/03/2011 11:04 PM, Trevor G Quayle wrote:
> Had a quick read over some of it. Looks very interesting, I'll have to take more
> time when I get time.

Me too. It does look interesting.
BTW I counted and there is almost 5000 words.
BTW there are a couple of spelling mistakes, not many though.

-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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From: gregjohn
Subject: Re: Raytracing - my story
Date: 2 Mar 2011 10:00:00
Message: <web.4d6e5a55e1cc1419279899c60@news.povray.org>
Pink, absolutely no borders, small Times New Roman text: I cannot read it.


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From: Leroy Whetstone
Subject: Re: Raytracing - my story
Date: 2 Mar 2011 23:56:25
Message: <4D6F1F3C.7030809@joplin.com>

> High!
> 
> Finally I managed to get the English version of the "Raytracing" 
> introduction text of my private website online...
> 
> http://www.khyberspace.de/raytra-e.html
> 
> Currently I don't run www.khyberspace.de on webspace with PHP 
> functionality, so no guestbook is available yet; but that may change in 
> the nearer future. Nevertheless, feel free to comment and give 
> suggestions for improvements (especially as far as language/style is 
> concerned - you know, the most common language on Earth is bad English!) 
> via e-mail!
> 
> See you in Khyberspace!
> 
> Yadgar
I did a quick read. You're like me, starting out with Commodore64.
It brought back memories staying up all night programing the dang thing.
Actually I started out with the Vic20 in 1983. And I did do machine 
lanuage for the commodore. My programing experince paralllel yours 
somewhat. But instead of Afghanistan I when to Mars.
Good luck with Khyberspace!


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From: Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann
Subject: Re: Raytracing - my story
Date: 4 Mar 2011 19:08:01
Message: <4d717ee1$1@news.povray.org>
High!

Am 03.03.2011 05:55, schrieb Leroy Whetstone:

> I did a quick read. You're like me, starting out with Commodore64.
> It brought back memories staying up all night programing the dang thing.
> Actually I started out with the Vic20 in 1983.

Did you use a floppy drive (4040, 1541) or a tape recorder ("datasette")?

> And I did do machine
> lanuage for the commodore.

Cool! I just recently bought myself a vintage C 64 machine language 
course book to learn Assembler... to finally really make use of my 
Commodore 64 which I bought in 2005!

> But instead of Afghanistan I when to Mars.

Does that mean that you model and render Martian landscapes, according 
to original NASA elevation data, with PoV-Ray?

See you in Khyberspace!

Yadgar


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From: Leroy Whetstone
Subject: Re: Raytracing - my story
Date: 4 Mar 2011 23:50:33
Message: <4D71C0D8.8010606@joplin.com>

> High!
> 
> Did you use a floppy drive (4040, 1541) or a tape recorder ("datasette")?

I had the tape recorder for a while then the 1541 floppy. Believe or not 
I still have some tapes with programs on them. The floppies I don't know.

> 
>> And I did do machine
>> lanuage for the commodore.
> 
> 
> Cool! I just recently bought myself a vintage C 64 machine language 
> course book to learn Assembler... to finally really make use of my 
> Commodore 64 which I bought in 2005!
> 

I never got rid of my Commodore 64 or some of the programs. I even 
bought (at auction) another Commodore 64 for five bucks. I still have my 
the machine language book.

>> But instead of Afghanistan I when to Mars.
> 
> 
> Does that mean that you model and render Martian landscapes, according 
> to original NASA elevation data, with PoV-Ray?
> 
  Yes! Yes I did. But someone else did the hard work of working with the 
'original NASA elevation data' and made a very large image map. The only 
trouble is that you don't get much fine detail. Its like looking at Mars 
from 50 miles up.
  I have several POV files that show the whole planet, does close-up 
views, and does landscapes. I can cut the planet up, that is show only 
parts above or below a height. All using longitude and latitude of Mars.
I when so far as to take longitude and latitude of places around home on 
earth and see what was there on Mars. My home is in the middle of nothing!


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Raytracing - my story
Date: 5 Mar 2011 13:06:29
Message: <4d727ba5$1@news.povray.org>


> I when so far as to take longitude and latitude of places around home on
> earth and see what was there on Mars. My home is in the middle of nothing!
>

But as Mars is about half Earth's size, you are twice as close to all 
other places... mostly other places also in the middle of nothing. :p




Alain


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From: Christian Froeschlin
Subject: Re: Raytracing - my story
Date: 5 Mar 2011 19:54:15
Message: <4d72db37$1@news.povray.org>
Leroy Whetstone wrote:

>  Yes! Yes I did. But someone else did the hard work of working with the 
> 'original NASA elevation data' and made a very large image map. The only 
> trouble is that you don't get much fine detail.

Was this from the 1992 Mars Digital Terrain Model? With Mars Express
and Mars Reconnaisance Orbiter there are now better data available, no
global coverage though.

Dang ... there went my evening ;) There are lots of strips for HRSC of
Mars Express and a few local mosaics. Best resolution up to 50m/pixel.
Didn't yet find any dtm level data products for MRO. I spent most of
the time converting a vicar file to png - ImageMagick can do it but
returned an 8 bit png with alternating Hi/Lo bytes. It also interlaced
the left and right half of the image in odd/even lines.


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From: Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann
Subject: Re: Raytracing - my story
Date: 6 Mar 2011 10:00:04
Message: <4d73a174$1@news.povray.org>
High!

Am 05.03.2011 05:49, schrieb Leroy Whetstone:

> I had the tape recorder for a while then the 1541 floppy. Believe or not
> I still have some tapes with programs on them. The floppies I don't know.

With my first Commodore 64 back in 1984, I started with a 1541 (never 
had a datasette)... but it took three months because of high demand 
until the floppy drive could be delivered!

> I never got rid of my Commodore 64 or some of the programs. I even
> bought (at auction) another Commodore 64 for five bucks. I still have my
> the machine language book.

I gave my original Commodore 64 away in 1990 because I needed a "real" 
computer (i. e. an Atari 1040 STFM) for doing papers at university... 
but every few years I once more caught the C 64 bug, so I had to re-buy 
some used "breadbins"... my current one I bought together with a 1541 
for ten euros, but I had to take a 50-mile bicycle ride to get the hardware!

> Yes! Yes I did. But someone else did the hard work of working with the
> 'original NASA elevation data' and made a very large image map.

At 8-bit grayscale or at 16-bit vertical resolution? I recently wrote a 
PoV-Ray script that generates 16-bit heightfields (and, after this, also 
curved mesh2s) from SRTM Earth altimetry data processed with 3DEM (a 
geographical visualization software)... if I remember correctly, 3DEM is 
also able to process ASCII terrain matrizes from MOLA Mars (Mars Global 
Surveyor) topography data!

And since a few years, there are also topographical contour maps of Mars 
at 1:250,000 available...

> I have several POV files that show the whole planet, does close-up
> views, and does landscapes. I can cut the planet up, that is show only
> parts above or below a height. All using longitude and latitude of Mars.
> I when so far as to take longitude and latitude of places around home on
> earth and see what was there on Mars. My home is in the middle of nothing!

Won't you like to post some of these images on p.b.i.?

See you in Khyberspace!

Yadgar


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