Folks,

wiki.povray.org is now open for contributions. Currently there are two areas
that the public can edit: howto's and documentation. however we're not asking
for contributions to the documentation area yet as the main POV-Ray docs have
not been converted and submitted - hence, the docs section is not linked from
the navigation menu.

if there is need for areas other than the above please comment here or on the
main page discussion area (http://wiki.povray.org/content/Talk:Main_Page).

note: an account is required to edit any part of the wiki, including the
discussion pages.

before contributing content, please be aware of our editing guidelines
(http://wiki.povray.org/content/Help:Editing_Guidelines) and copyright policy
 (http://wiki.povray.org/content/POV-Wiki:Copyrights).

-- Chris

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Chris Cason <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> wiki.povray.org is now open for contributions.
> -- Chris

Excellent news!

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I spotted this at the top of a page:
Warning: preg_match() [function.preg-match]: Unknown modifier 'p' in 
/a/httpd/sites/wiki/export/includes/EditPage.php on line 645

To reproduce, go to your prefs and make sure "Prompt me when entering a 
blank edit summary" is enabled. Then edit a page, and click save without 
entering a summary. It will give the message as expected ("Reminder: You 
have not provided an edit summary. If you click Save again, your edit 
will be saved without one.") but there is that warning message on the 
top of the page.

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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> I spotted this at the top of a page:
> Warning: preg_match() [function.preg-match]: Unknown modifier 'p' in 
> /a/httpd/sites/wiki/export/includes/EditPage.php on line 645

hopefully now fixed, thanks for the report.

-- Chris

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Chris Cason <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote:
> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> > I spotted this at the top of a page:
> > Warning: preg_match() [function.preg-match]: Unknown modifier 'p' in
> > /a/httpd/sites/wiki/export/includes/EditPage.php on line 645
>
> hopefully now fixed, thanks for the report.
>
> -- Chris

is there an anonymous account that I can use?
I really hate registering accounts to edit wiki. And it is a real pain to
remember so many different password and login.

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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:31:07 -0500, zeroin23 wrote:

> is there an anonymous account that I can use? I really hate registering
> accounts to edit wiki. And it is a real pain to remember so many
> different password and login.

Nope, we explicitly set things up to require authentication so as to 
limit spamming.

I use Firefox, and it has the ability to save password/login info.  I'd 
go that route (and in fact have).

Jim

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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:31:07 -0500, zeroin23 wrote:
>
> > is there an anonymous account that I can use? I really hate registering
> > accounts to edit wiki. And it is a real pain to remember so many
> > different password and login.
>
> Nope, we explicitly set things up to require authentication so as to
> limit spamming.
>
> I use Firefox, and it has the ability to save password/login info.  I'd
> go that route (and in fact have).
>
> Jim

you know right, by login, my opportunity cost have just increased thus resulting
in me contributing less right? And if anyone were to spam here, we could always
revert back right to pre-spam? is it really justified? if a spammer wants to,
he can always automate and create dummy accounts to spam.

I use opera and fox for password, but then sometimes I just remembered something
and only have access to public terminals.

wiki allows anonymous edit but if some minor restrictions...

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zeroin23 wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:31:07 -0500, zeroin23 wrote:
>>
>>> is there an anonymous account that I can use? I really hate registering
>>> accounts to edit wiki. And it is a real pain to remember so many
>>> different password and login.
>> Nope, we explicitly set things up to require authentication so as to
>> limit spamming.
>>
>> I use Firefox, and it has the ability to save password/login info.  I'd
>> go that route (and in fact have).
>>
>> Jim
> 
> you know right, by login, my opportunity cost have just increased thus resulting
> in me contributing less right? And if anyone were to spam here, we could always
> revert back right to pre-spam? is it really justified? if a spammer wants to,
> he can always automate and create dummy accounts to spam.

If you are serious about contributing, a login should be no burden at all.

Think about it, please: If, on the other hand you don't really care about
contributing, the work someone else needs to put into cleaning out the spam
caused by anonymous logins would outweigh the few anonymous contributions.
Thus, the overall net gain of anonymous logins is negative...

	Thorsten

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On 2007-11-28, Thorsten Froehlich <tho### [at] trfde> wrote:
>
> If you are serious about contributing, a login should be no burden at all.
>
> Think about it, please: If, on the other hand you don't really care about
> contributing, the work someone else needs to put into cleaning out the spam
> caused by anonymous logins would outweigh the few anonymous contributions.
> Thus, the overall net gain of anonymous logins is negative...
>
> 	Thorsten

I agree.  The signal to noise ratio needs to be kept to a minimum, 
especially on things people might use for reference like a wiki.  
For example, me.  I'll be using it alot I would bet.  Though I've used 
Pov for years, I still need all the help I can get.  Especially with 
lighting.  Hint, hint.

At any rate, passwords do help to keep down the riff-raff to some extent 
and has been mentioned, Firefox will help to minimize the trouble.  IE 
will do this as well.

As a potential user, I'd appreciate it.

-->Jeff

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On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 04:47:12 -0500, zeroin23 wrote:

> you know right, by login, my opportunity cost have just increased thus
> resulting in me contributing less right? And if anyone were to spam
> here, we could always revert back right to pre-spam? is it really
> justified? if a spammer wants to, he can always automate and create
> dummy accounts to spam.

Most of the spam in Wikis is done using bots that don't login - and 
there's a captcha component to creating an account, making it difficult 
(if not impossible) to automate.

That's low-hanging fruit, and easy to deal with.

Counter that with the efforts of a volunteer team (remember that none of 
us get paid to do this), going and reverting massive quantities of 
automated spam posted to the wiki is something that nobody really has 
time for.

Creating a login is easy if you're a human.  Saving the user ID and 
password is easy if you use your browser to save that info.  It's not a 
hardship, and the payoff is significant compared to the administrative 
overhead of monitoring every change to see if it's spam.

Of course if you don't want to contribute, then don't - we'll miss the 
contribution, but the login requirement is not going to go away - it was 
a design specification for this implementation intended specifically to 
deal with the pervasive spamming problem so common on totally open Wikis.

Unless, of course, you're willing to pay me $80K a year to revert spammed 
posts so you can post anonymously, I'd be happy to give up my day job 
(well, no, not really - I enjoy my job too much to give it up).

:-)

Jim

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