Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> I just wondered if I was the only
> person who found most examples I've seen of focal blur apertures to be
> too large to be aesthetically appealing.

I guess so.  I personally find focal blur to be very aesthetically appealing
in itself:  it has a plastic beauty...

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First of all, call me yet another who liked the totorial Warp :)

Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> And, on topic, am I the only one that thinks most of the uses I see of
> focal blur are over-the-top? It's so distracting it ruins the picture
> sometimes. Maybe just a bit would work out better.  Or, as I said, is it
> just me?

I've long groaned about photographers who like to use too much depth of
field un-necessarily (in my opinion)to focus attention on the subject.  To
me that only works if you've got tunnel vision or the background is so
separate form the foreground to be abstract.  Eyes naturally move so-as to
not burn in and also to look at different things (unless you're drunk or so
I've heard.)  Personally I like to be able to look at every corner of photos
if I can.  So, in adding realism to a render, a little focal blur goes a
long way.  Just my 2c.

Charles

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"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message 
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> Warp wrote:
>> effect. I think in this kind of image it's ok, and adds to the depth and
>> realism.
>
> I'm not arguing that the effect is bad. I'm merely commenting that I find 
> most POV images I've seen with focal blur seem to set too high an 
> aperture.

I think this has a lot to do with blurry HDRi backgrounds that need focal 
blur to blend in.


-- 
-Nekar Xenos
"The truth is out there"

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"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> schreef in bericht 
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> Of course, it's all subjective.  I just wondered if I was the only person 
> who found most examples I've seen of focal blur apertures to be too large 
> to be aesthetically appealing.
>

As a long-time (amateur) photographer, I tend to agree with you. But, as you 
say, it is subjective. I have very rarely used focal blur in POV-Ray, mainly 
because I almost never do close-up scenes, but I feel tempted to do a series 
of try-outs (when I find some time...)

Thomas

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Stephen wrote:

>
> Actually, thinking about it, I usually hear it used with husband/wife
> type relationships. If it's derogatory, you'd say they're a "kiss-a$$".
>
> --
>    Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
>      Scruffitarianism - Where T-shirt, jeans,
>      and a three-day beard are "Sunday Best."




up e.g. teachers pet.

my ears.



Stephen

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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:
> "Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> schreef in bericht
> news:4578549c$1@news.povray.org...
> > Of course, it's all subjective.  I just wondered if I was the only person
> > who found most examples I've seen of focal blur apertures to be too large
> > to be aesthetically appealing.
> >
>
> As a long-time (amateur) photographer, I tend to agree with you. But, as you
> say, it is subjective. I have very rarely used focal blur in POV-Ray, mainly
> because I almost never do close-up scenes, but I feel tempted to do a series
> of try-outs (when I find some time...)
>
> Thomas


show a point. I too think that generally when focal blur is used it is often
applied too heavily.

Stephen

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web.457933fd53db6158f1cb1e660@news.povray.org...
> Not being critical of Warp's example as it is good practice to exaggerate 
> to
> show a point. I too think that generally when focal blur is used it is 
> often
> applied too heavily.

Case in point :)
-> http://www.metropolismag.com/cda/story.php?artid=1760

G.

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"Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapgfr> wrote:

> web.457933fd53db6158f1cb1e660@news.povray.org...
> > Not being critical of Warp's example as it is good practice to exaggerate
> > to
> > show a point. I too think that generally when focal blur is used it is
> > often
> > applied too heavily.
>
> Case in point :)
> -> http://www.metropolismag.com/cda/story.php?artid=1760
>
> G.



Stephen

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"Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapgfr> schreef in bericht 
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>
> Case in point :)
> -> http://www.metropolismag.com/cda/story.php?artid=1760
>

Yes indeed!
Strange. I suppose he has some artistic idea in his mind, but for me these 
photographs look just *amateurish*.

Thomas

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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:
> "Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapgfr> schreef in bericht
> news:457963cc$1@news.povray.org...
> >
> > Case in point :)
> > -> http://www.metropolismag.com/cda/story.php?artid=1760
> >
>
> Yes indeed!
> Strange. I suppose he has some artistic idea in his mind, but for me these
> photographs look just *amateurish*.
>
> Thomas

For *amateurish* read poor or bad.

Stephen

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