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Eero Ahonen <aer### [at] removethis zbxtnetinvalid> wrote:
> I've had one major problem with WinXP. Whenever, whereever I'm using it,
> it's just not compatible with the user. Ok, there are some more issues
> as always, but that's the most buggering one I think I'll ever see.
I thought Windows was designed to be user-friendly (even at the
expense of efficiency, stability and security) :P
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- Warp
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Tek wrote:
>
> I guess my biggest problem is I don't know how I'm going to use it. I
> suspect what I want is to switch to linux for rendering and text editing pov
> files, and use windows for everything else. But of course if I get a distro
> of linux which gives me a nice way to do regular computing then I might use
> it exclusively and leave windows alone. I don't know what I want to use it
> for and I don't know how to figure that out except by talking to people who
> already use linux for pov.
>
More on that, you will want to use it for normal websurfing etc while
poving. Or do you say that you've never surfed to find some answer for a
prob while POVing? Eg. for me, reading POV online manual is pretty
normal while POVing :).
And when your computer is calculating The Big Image, you might want to
do something while it's doing it(1). Eg. you could dig your way deeper
and deeper of Linux-knowledge ;).
Finally, I'd guess you don't want to get the reboot-delay every time you
want to do something else, if it's possible on the currently running
system. So I'd say, go for a usable desktop, that's what you'll most
propably want someday.
(1) 124:45:15 Rendering line 295 of 5200, 24901 rad. samples
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Eero "Aero" Ahonen
http://www.zbxt.net
aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid
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Warp wrote:
>
> AFAIK yast2 will try to read and parse the configuration file so that
> any manually-made changes have a high probability of showing up in the
> yast2 window and not be lost, but it never hurts to backup, of course.
>
It might try, I haven't really used it much. But it has ruined some of
my configs, so I shout for backups. OTOH, even if it didn't ruin them,
I'd still shout for backups :).
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Eero "Aero" Ahonen
http://www.zbxt.net
aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid
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Warp wrote:
>
> I thought Windows was designed to be user-friendly (even at the
> expense of efficiency, stability and security) :P
>
The problem might partly be on the user-part, but I've never seen
actually user-friendly Windows. XP just sucks lot more than even 2k or NT.
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Eero "Aero" Ahonen
http://www.zbxt.net
aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid
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Eero Ahonen wrote:
> it's just not compatible with the user.
That's the infamous POBCAK error.
(Problem Occurs Between Chair And Keyboard. :-)
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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
Sabotage? Communist conspiracy? Or just
Microsoft again? Only time will tell.
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Eero Ahonen nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2005-12-03 17:17:
> Tek wrote:
> (1) 124:45:15 Rendering line 295 of 5200, 24901 rad. samples
>
I did a render that exeeded 20 000 000 rad samples for a 1208*960 render. It was
aproching the
million around 150 lines, maybe less... and the radiosity settings where not very
high, default with
60 samples and recursion_limit 2.
--
Alain
-------------------------------------------------
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol is a major factor in dancing like a retard.
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Alain wrote:
>
> I did a render that exeeded 20 000 000 rad samples for a 1208*960
> render. It was aproching the million around 150 lines, maybe less... and
> the radiosity settings where not very high, default with 60 samples and
> recursion_limit 2.
>
Uuh, nice. How long did it take and how much memory did it consume? And
on what hardware?
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Among other things, Tek saw fit to write:
> 1/ what version of linux should I get?
Any modern up-to-date one. I use Mandriva in several computers and it works
perfectly for me. There is a 64-bit version of Mandriva.
> 2/ how much better is 64-bit pov compared to 32-bit on the same system?
> (i.e. is it worth the effort?)
I have no idea, sorry. I have never tried a 64-bit system.
To your other questions. Any decent linux can run POV-Ray, you just compile
it from sources (which is easy) with the appropriate optimizations (which
may be harder to find, but google and usenet are your friends).
And yes, you need a "special" linux for a 64-bit system, at least if you
want it to really use the 64 bits[*]. My advice is to install a 64-bit
distro, take your time configuring it at your liking (install, uninstall
and setup programs) and keep it up-to-date with its tools (urpmi, apt, yum,
yast... whatever).
[*] This is because you get the precompiled kernel and tools. If you were
going to compile everything yourself (as you can do with Gentoo or LFS),
then I guess you don't need a special version, or better said, in this case
you get your very special personalized version for your very specific
computer.
--
light_source{9+9*x,1}camera{orthographic look_at(1-y)/4angle 30location
9/4-z*4}light_source{-9*z,1}union{box{.9-z.1+x clipped_by{plane{2+y-4*x
0}}}box{z-y-.1.1+z}box{-.1.1+x}box{.1z-.1}pigment{rgb<.8.2,1>}}//Jellby
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That interface looks great! So what do I need to set it up like that?
--
Tek
http://evilsuperbrain.com
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
news:4392066b@news.povray.org...
> Tek <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote:
>> Not sure if I need the x-windows display, since that's the kind of
>> thing I want advice on! I'm not sure what the best way is to use pov
>> under
>> linux.
>
> Well, if you don't have X support in POV-Ray, you won't see the image
> while it's rendering it.
> (Well, technically speaking that's not completely true because when
> there's no graphical window POV-Ray will instead show an ascii version
> of the image instead... However, that is in no way enough. :P )
>
> With properly compiled povray and properly configured emacs you can
> make it look like this:
> http://tag.povray.org/povQandT/EmacsPovFrontend.png
>
> --
> - Warp
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"Jellby" <me### [at] privacynet> wrote in message
news:og7### [at] badulaqueunexes...
> And yes, you need a "special" linux for a 64-bit system, at least if you
> want it to really use the 64 bits[*]. My advice is to install a 64-bit
> distro, take your time configuring it at your liking (install, uninstall
> and setup programs) and keep it up-to-date with its tools (urpmi, apt,
> yum,
> yast... whatever).
What no auto update? ;)
Thanks for the advice, I think I'm starting to get some idea what I want to
do.
--
Tek
http://evilsuperbrain.com
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