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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: www.povray.org problem (fwd)
Date: 31 Oct 2003 08:19:28
Message: <3fa26160$1@news.povray.org>
In article <3fa1db9b$1@news.povray.org> , "Dennis Miller" 
<dhm### [at] comcastnet> wrote:

> Here's a forwarded message from Rafael about access problems. Any
> suggestions/comments?

Routing problems are the responsibility of the internet access provider.
This problem has nothing to do with povray.org, it simply happens that the
povray.org IP is one of the addresses for which the routing of the access
provider or one of the intermediate carriers fails.

Consequently, telling the local ISP is the only possible solution if this is
commercial access.  If it is a dial-in or DSL ISP, I would just wait.
Trying to tell them via a customer help line that _they_have a problem will
be hopeless.  There are too many Windos users they have to deal with on a
daily basis that don't even know how to turn on their computer.  Thus they
assume everything is fine with their network and the user is just stupid
;-)

    Thorsten

> Rafael wrote:
> I have working access to internet all the time, the problem is
> somewhere in between, on internet connection between me and povray.com
> I quess maybe You can please send this into newsgroup (maybe general?) for
> me,
> since I realy can not acces group for few days.
>
> Tracert:
>
>
> povray.org [204.213.191.228]
>   1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  shur.joint.eu.org [62.233.182.1]
>   2   207 ms   195 ms   225 ms  62.233.163.169
>   3   199 ms   254 ms   222 ms  62.233.150.41
>   4   204 ms   184 ms   201 ms  waw-kra-cr2-lod-br1.devs.futuro.pl
> [62.233.150.33]
>   5   195 ms   227 ms   166 ms  pos-lod-br1-waw-br1.devs.futuro.pl
> [62.233.138.25]
>   6   193 ms   206 ms   178 ms  war-b1-geth2-1.telia.net [213.248.79.45]
>   7   222 ms   257 ms   245 ms  hbg-bb1-pos1-2-0.telia.net [213.248.64.201]
>   8   194 ms   167 ms   159 ms  kbn-bb1-pos2-0-1.telia.net [213.248.65.77]
>   9   243 ms   245 ms   262 ms  nyk-bb1-pos5-0-0.telia.net [213.248.64.22]
>  10   274 ms   276 ms   299 ms  sl-gw27-nyc-9-2.sprintlink.net
> [144.223.27.145]
>  11     *        *        *     (Time out)
>  12     *        *        *     (Time out)
>
>  so the problem is somewhere after sl-gw27-nyc-9-2.sprintlink.net
>  [144.223.27.145] router.



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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: www.povray.org problem (fwd)
Date: 31 Oct 2003 09:22:02
Message: <fo7a71-4ck.ln1@triton.imagico.de>
Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> 
> Routing problems are the responsibility of the internet access provider.
> This problem has nothing to do with povray.org, it simply happens that the
> povray.org IP is one of the addresses for which the routing of the access
> provider or one of the intermediate carriers fails.

ABX has the same problem btw. - so it seems at least that it's not just 
a problem of a single ISP but a regional one.

Christoph

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From: Rafal 'Raf256' Maj
Subject: Re: www.povray.org problem (fwd)
Date: 1 Nov 2003 15:30:21
Message: <Xns9426DABC87461raf256com@204.213.191.226>
tho### [at] trfde news:3fa26160$1@news.povray.org


Hi,
the problem just fixed itself, now I can access povray.org (www. and news.) 
again :)

> Routing problems are the responsibility of the internet access
> provider. This problem has nothing to do with povray.org, it simply

Wrong. I had no problems accesing *any* other pages, and tracer clearly 
shown that the problem is right here:

  10   274 ms   276 ms   299 ms  sl-gw27-nyc-9-2.sprintlink.net
  11     *        *        *     (Time out)

but I agree that this is/was not the problem of PovRay.org *server*, but 
the packets where lost quite far from my ISP (after international Telia 
provider) so the problem was localized near PovRay.org server.


Good to be back here :) 
Thanks for Fwd: my email, Dennis.


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From: ABX
Subject: Re: www.povray.org problem (fwd)
Date: 3 Nov 2003 02:25:10
Message: <eh0cqvcrdhqbut4253cndpk6up93c2d2ru@4ax.com>
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:21:35 +0100, Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
wrote:
> ABX has the same problem btw. - so it seems at least that it's not just 
> a problem of a single ISP but a regional one.

I'm directly in national operator so it was problem of half of my country.
Works fine now. Let's start new week...

ABX


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: www.povray.org problem (fwd)
Date: 3 Nov 2003 04:22:01
Message: <72jh71-363.ln1@triton.imagico.de>
ABX wrote:
> 
> I'm directly in national operator so it was problem of half of my country.
> Works fine now. Let's start new week...

Welcome back!

Christoph

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From: Nicolas Calimet
Subject: Re: www.povray.org problem (fwd)
Date: 3 Nov 2003 07:08:41
Message: <3FA64549.1020706@free.fr>
> ABX has the same problem btw. - so it seems at least that it's not just 
> a problem of a single ISP but a regional one.

	I also could not connect to povray.org (http and news) during
the whole thursday afternoon to saturday evening. It seems to be back
again since sunday early morning. Anything else was accessed normally
through my university connection. Did any of you developpers (Chris,
Thorsten, Christoph, ...) could access it normally at that time ?

	- NC


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: www.povray.org problem (fwd)
Date: 3 Nov 2003 07:51:31
Message: <3fa64f53@news.povray.org>
In article <3FA### [at] freefr> , Nicolas Calimet <pov### [at] freefr>
wrote:

>  I also could not connect to povray.org (http and news) during
> the whole thursday afternoon to saturday evening. It seems to be back
> again since sunday early morning. Anything else was accessed normally
> through my university connection. Did any of you developpers (Chris,
> Thorsten, Christoph, ...) could access it normally at that time ?

I could connect fine via DSL (Arcor), but from work (Fraunhofer/GMD St.
Augustin) could not connect to povray.org.

    Thorsten

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From: Christopher James Huff
Subject: Re: www.povray.org problem (fwd)
Date: 3 Nov 2003 08:58:17
Message: <cjameshuff-563EAA.08575603112003@netplex.aussie.org>
In article <3FA### [at] freefr>,
 Nicolas Calimet <pov### [at] freefr> wrote:

> 	I also could not connect to povray.org (http and news) during
> the whole thursday afternoon to saturday evening. It seems to be back
> again since sunday early morning. Anything else was accessed normally
> through my university connection. Did any of you developpers (Chris,
> Thorsten, Christoph, ...) could access it normally at that time ?

There was a period of time (several hours) around then where I couldn't 
reach povray.org.

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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: www.povray.org problem (fwd)
Date: 3 Nov 2003 09:22:02
Message: <ji4i71-7k4.ln1@triton.imagico.de>
Nicolas Calimet wrote:
>     I also could not connect to povray.org (http and news) during
> the whole thursday afternoon to saturday evening. It seems to be back
> again since sunday early morning. Anything else was accessed normally
> through my university connection. Did any of you developpers (Chris,
> Thorsten, Christoph, ...) could access it normally at that time ?

I could not connect for some time (less than a day) but this was over 
even before this thread started IIRC.

Christoph

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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: www.povray.org problem (fwd)
Date: 4 Nov 2003 11:25:03
Message: <3fa7d2df@news.povray.org>
> but I agree that this is/was not the problem of PovRay.org *server*, but
> the packets where lost quite far from my ISP (after international Telia
> provider) so the problem was localized near PovRay.org server.

A good test if you are wondering if the pov machine is having a problem
is to see if you can load www.ntplx.net - it's in the same building. If
it works and we don't, then there's an issue with the server. If it doesn't
then it's most likely elsewhere.

-- Chris


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