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From: Lutz-Peter Hooge
Subject: Re: New website
Date: 11 Mar 2003 11:30:14
Message: <3e6e0f16$1@news.povray.org>
Anthony D. Baye <ban### [at] Rapidnetcom> wrote:

> I have a new website under construction, and I wanted to get a test
> audience to view it.  Looks great under NS 6+ and alright under IE 4+.

Sorry, but your page is a good example how to NOT design a website.
-unusable without javascript
-made for a fixed resolution
-opens a chromeless javascript-popup
-your text/heading/etc colors are too saturated 
 (in contrast to your navigation images)
-the layout/styling is broken 
 (unnecessary scrollbars, overlapping text...)
-the markup is invalid and deprecated (<font>...)
 <http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.rapidnet.com/~banty/Shadowplay/tml/home/index2.html&doctype=HTML+4.01+Transitional&charset=iso-8859-1>

I assume most of this is probably to blame on:
 <META NAME=GENERATOR CONTENT="Claris Home Page 2.0">

My advise: throw away all the JavaScript stuff and 'Claris Home Page'
and clean up the rest using a text-editor.

Lutz-Peter


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: New website
Date: 11 Mar 2003 11:30:22
Message: <3e6e0f1d@news.povray.org>
Anthony D. Baye <ban### [at] rapidnetcom> wrote:
> Does anybody mind if the link pops a new window, as long as
> it doesn't close the origonal?

  Is there a good reason for this?

  Usually it's a good idea to leave the choice to the user. Opening a link
in a new window is always a hidden side-effect, which at least I hate a lot.
If I want to open a link in a new window, I know how to do it by myself.

  There are a few exceptions where opening a link in a new window is ok,
but they are rare, and even in those cases it should be clear that "if
you click here, it will open a new window, so be warned".
  (Btw, you should not try to open the new window with javascript, as many
people have that disabled and will simply skip your site if links are not
working.)

-- 
#macro N(D)#if(D>99)cylinder{M()#local D=div(D,104);M().5,2pigment{rgb M()}}
N(D)#end#end#macro M()<mod(D,13)-6mod(div(D,13)8)-3,10>#end blob{
N(11117333955)N(4254934330)N(3900569407)N(7382340)N(3358)N(970)}//  - Warp -


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From: Mike Williams
Subject: Re: New website
Date: 11 Mar 2003 13:40:18
Message: <aMaOPDAG2ib+Ew7B@econym.demon.co.uk>
Wasn't it Anthony D. Baye who wrote:
>I have a new website under construction, and I wanted to get a test
>audience to view it.  Looks great under NS 6+ and alright under IE 4+.
>Netscape recommended for mac users as IE doesn't go full screen on the
>mac for some reason.  MSN users should be aware that the self.close
>function appearantly does not work under that browser, so just close the
>smaller window after the new one opens.  Still a lot of work to be done,
>but comments welcome.
>
><a href="http://www.rapidnet.com/~banty/Shadowplay/">The Shadow Hall</a>


"The Shadow Tower" page looks awful under Opera. The text and table
overlap each other. Control-D isn't "add to bookmarks" in Opera.

When "The Shadow Hall" pops up, it's a small window (with my particular
Opera settings), and has two sets of scroll bars.

You seem to be trying to do everything the hard way, and that's almost
certainly going to cause problems with browsers that you haven't tested
it on. I always recommend keeping a web page as simple as possible and
only adding browser-dependent complexity when you really need to do
something that can't be done more simply.

-- 
Mike Williams
Gentleman of Leisure


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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: New website
Date: 11 Mar 2003 14:14:15
Message: <3e6e3587@news.povray.org>
How about starting simple, with plain typed HTML on white background, then
gradually adding features which are truly value-add, all the while trying
for W3CS validation along the way.  Also please read "Web Pages that Suck"
for great advice on some common mistakes.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: New website
Date: 11 Mar 2003 17:27:52
Message: <3e6e62e7@news.povray.org>
Greg M. Johnson <gregj:-)565### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> Also please read "Web Pages that Suck" 
> for great advice on some common mistakes.

  What a strange site that http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/

  From what I understand, it should teach how to make good sites by
showing examples of bad site designs, or something like that.
  The front page is overcluttered with links to things that look like
secondary, not what I'm looking for (ie. the actual content). I can't
find anything interesting even after browsing for several minutes. The
links go to pages which go to pages which go to pages which all seem
either introductory in nature or contain hundreds of lines of small text
(not really something that invites you to read it, imho).
  Is this a good design?

-- 
#macro N(D)#if(D>99)cylinder{M()#local D=div(D,104);M().5,2pigment{rgb M()}}
N(D)#end#end#macro M()<mod(D,13)-6mod(div(D,13)8)-3,10>#end blob{
N(11117333955)N(4254934330)N(3900569407)N(7382340)N(3358)N(970)}//  - Warp -


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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: New website
Date: 12 Mar 2003 08:17:57
Message: <3e6f3385@news.povray.org>
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
news:3e6e62e7@news.povray.org...
>   Is this a good design?
>

Uh, read the book!


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