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> Because making it commercial will make sure that it will lose popularity
> and that its developement will eventually stop (why develop something
nobody
> is buying?).
This is a strange thing I mentioned already. Most people obviously think
that the author of the software just wants to make personal profit. I think
this is caused by Microsoft.
Nobody thinks that the fee ist used just for covering costs while
development is still free and unpayed.
I think you are right in expecting a loss of popularity. Sad but true.
regards
SY
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> > Well why not ?
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> Because making it commercial will make sure that it will lose popularity
> and that its developement will eventually stop (why develop something
nobody
> is buying?).
you missed the point
pov is still distributed as it is now for free, and separate commercial
versions are created to integrate with commercial packages that cost a
fortune anyhow.
if you can afford max/Maya (etc) then you can certainly afford the dedicated
pov plug-in, the rest of us will just have to continue doing what we're
doing right now
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Rick
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> > Because making it commercial will make sure that it will lose
popularity
> > and that its developement will eventually stop (why develop something
> nobody
> > is buying?).
>
> This is a strange thing I mentioned already. Most people obviously think
> that the author of the software just wants to make personal profit.
Unfortunatly even the pov developers have a need to put food on the table
from time to time
> I think
> this is caused by Microsoft.
along with your eggs not being runny enough and getting sand in your shorts.
> Nobody thinks that the fee ist used just for covering costs while
> development is still free and unpayed.
>
> I think you are right in expecting a loss of popularity. Sad but true.
Max/Maya are fiendishly expensive, and both fiendishly popular
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Rick
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["Rick [Kitty5]" <ric### [at] kitty5 com>]
| pov is still distributed as it is now for free, and separate commercial
| versions are created to integrate with commercial packages that cost a
| fortune anyhow.
I think POV-Ray would find it hard to enter a market dominated by Renderman.
Sure, POV-Ray is a ray-tracer, but so is BMRT, and BMRT is Renderman compliant,
whilst POV-Ray is not.
BMRT was actually used in a scene in "A Bug's Life" because ray-tracing
was needed for a glass object.
--
It's a dark day for mad science.
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> > I think
> > this is caused by Microsoft.
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> along with your eggs not being runny enough and getting sand in your
shorts.
At least the acceptance of program crashes and failures increased heavily
from the days on more and more people used PCs at home, getting the
"personal crash" at home. :) Which one might see as a positive effect.
> Max/Maya are fiendishly expensive, and both fiendishly popular
Yes, but how popular would they be if they were for free?
We were talking about a loss of popularity for PoV not about popularity in
general or in comparison to other products.
Don't you think that PoV would loose users when turning to shareware?
regards
SY
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> I think you are right in expecting a loss of popularity. Sad but true.
Every program would be more popular if it was free.
My last word to this discussion.
Regards,
Hugo
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On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:51:56 -0000, Rick [Kitty5] wrote:
>> > Because making it commercial will make sure that it will lose
> popularity
>> > and that its developement will eventually stop (why develop something
>> nobody
>> > is buying?).
>>
>> This is a strange thing I mentioned already. Most people obviously think
>> that the author of the software just wants to make personal profit.
>
> Unfortunatly even the pov developers have a need to put food on the table
> from time to time
That's why we have day jobs.
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#macro R(L P)sphere{L F}cylinder{L P F}#end#macro P(V)merge{R(z+a z)R(-z a-z)R(a
-z-z-z a+z)torus{1F clipped_by{plane{a 0}}}translate V}#end#macro Z(a F T)merge{
P(z+a)P(z-a)R(-z-z-x a)pigment{rgbt 1}hollow interior{media{emission T}}finish{
reflection.1}}#end Z(-x-x.2y)Z(-x-x.4x)camera{location z*-10rotate x*90}
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Phew! Three days closed in my anti-atomic bunker kept me safe from that toxic cloud
which seems to have crossed this newsgroup recently...
--
Jonathan.
"Rick [Kitty5]" <ric### [at] kitty5com> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:3c970111@news.povray.org...
> Well why not ?
>
> Pov as it currently exists is still given away to all who care to play
>
> Commercial versions are developed as seamless plugins for the big expensive
> 3d environments - such as Maya & max. closed source and with a different
> licence.
>
> cash raised could be used to pay for the web services, pay someone to
> support the commercial versions, etc etc etc
>
> --
>
> Rick
>
> Kitty5 WebDesign - http://Kitty5.com
> POV-Ray News & Resources - http://Povray.co.uk
> TEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - FAX : +44 (01270) 251105 - ICQ : 15776037
>
> PGP Public Key
> http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x231E1CEA
>
>
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Yes it would, but not most of them. The problem, as I stated in the other
thread on this issue, is that commercialization would kill the volunteer
support, yet not generate enough income to pay for the necessary
labor. The result would be the death of POV-Ray.
Harold
news:3c975235$1@news.povray.org...
>
> Don't you think that PoV would loose users when turning to shareware?
> regards
> SY
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It might not lose _users_ of Pov in general- but it would certainly lose
those who didn't have a copy of good old 3.1g installation file squirreled
away }:-)
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