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> > I think you are right in expecting a loss of popularity. Sad but true.
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> Every program would be more popular if it was free.
> My last word to this discussion.
Linux & associated apps are free, yet it has less than 1% of the desktop
market. Why?
Rick
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> | pov is still distributed as it is now for free, and separate commercial
> | versions are created to integrate with commercial packages that cost a
> | fortune anyhow.
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> I think POV-Ray would find it hard to enter a market dominated by
Renderman.
> Sure, POV-Ray is a ray-tracer, but so is BMRT, and BMRT is Renderman
compliant,
> whilst POV-Ray is not.
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> BMRT was actually used in a scene in "A Bug's Life" because ray-tracing
> was needed for a glass object.
harder still if it never tries.
Rick
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Rick [Kitty5] <ric### [at] kitty5com> wrote:
> Linux & associated apps are free, yet it has less than 1% of the desktop
> market. Why?
You will not make POV-Ray as popular as Windows just by making it
commercial. You need a lot more than that (many of these means are morally
and even legally questionable).
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The second a free program goes commercial, people start developing more
free programs to replace it just like the GNU project did to commercial
UNIX's.
Brendan
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> Linux & associated apps are free, yet it has less than 1% of the desktop
> market. Why?
Apache Web server is free and has more than 50% of the web server market...
Given enough numbers, you can prove whatever your point is.
It's just a matter of isolating the 'right' number!
(right: good, according to the view to demonstrate.)
Moreover, how do you collect number of the desktop market ?
By cash flow ??? Then of course free desktop count less than expensive one.
And with the MS licence upgrade system, I currently would count as
a 4 MS home system: DOS, W3.11, W95 and W98. Whereas I only kept W98 installed.
Given that after W98, there was WME and now XP that the mass would have
upgraded to, by how much should you adjust the numbers ?
Side note: My system is a dual-boot with Linux, and main serious work
is perform under Linux. I currently kept W98 only for DVD playing, mpeg works
and internet connection (I'm just too lazy to configure that on Linux).
And I really prefer the free StarOffice 5.2 to the 'I cannot afford-bureautic' of MS.
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> Moreover, how do you collect number of the desktop market ?
<snip>
> Side note: My system is a dual-boot with Linux, and main serious work
> is perform under Linux.
There! You get counted under Linux. In answer to your question, you ask
people what OS they primarily use. Haven't you seen those surveys?
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Bill DeWitt wrote:
> There! You get counted under Linux.
Nope...
>In answer to your question, you ask
> people what OS they primarily use. Haven't you seen those surveys?
I avoid surveys as well as dissiminating personal data around to unknown org.
How accurate can be a surveys were only thus who want can answer ?
How can you trust the answers, and therefore the surveys ?
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"Hugo" <hua### [at] post3teledk> wrote in message
news:3c971728@news.povray.org...
> Commercialism is evil as it controls the world.. Free cooperation between
> people is something more valuable.
Very true
Regards,
Gleb
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>
> I avoid surveys as well as dissiminating personal data around to unknown
org.
> How accurate can be a surveys were only thus who want can answer ?
> How can you trust the answers, and therefore the surveys ?
Because your sort of avoidance is usually small enough to vanish into
noise. Also because if the circumstance are right, as survey preparers work
long hours to accomplish, people like you -would- answer enough questions to
get a good sample. I mean, you answered it today...
They know that a certain percentage of Linux users are paranoid, as are
a certain percentage of Mac users and Windows users and they account for
this.
It is really quite interesting. They do sample surveys, compare that
data to real life, then make adjustments and try again. When the variance
disappears into noise, they are pretty sure that they have a good survey
and -then- and -only- then do successful businesses invest millions of
dollars into a product based upon the data.
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On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:51:56 -0000, "Rick [Kitty5]" <ric### [at] kitty5com>
wrote:
>Max/Maya are fiendishly expensive, and both fiendishly popular
Recent investigation showed an almost 20:1 ratio of pirated vs. legal
copies of Max *in use* (not counting the countless kids who d/led it
off a warez site to play with it).
And I am not talking about Bulgaria, I'm talking worldwide.
Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] vipbg
TAG e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg
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