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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Compression
Date: 13 Jan 2001 13:42:51
Message: <3a60a1ab@news.povray.org>
Peter Popov <pet### [at] vipbg> wrote:
: RAR is available for DOS, Windows, Mac and *x. What more is there? :)

  I have zip, rar, lha, gzip and bzip2 (and other less known)
compression/decompression and arj decompression software in this machine
(I think they are all generic unix programs).
  I think that's mostly enough.

  (Btw, bzip2 compresses better in almost every case and faster in most
cases than any of the other compression softwares; I wonder why it isn't
more popular in Windows systems...)

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Compression
Date: 13 Jan 2001 16:37:10
Message: <3A60C957.9DC55463@faricy.net>
Christoph Hormann wrote:

> A fast solution for expanding ZIP with the windows explorer is to
> associate them with a small batch file invoking regular unzip.exe.  I have
> two menu items in the context menu, one for viewing, one for expanding in
> a subdirectory named filename.zip.out

I thought you meant that that could be done with pkzip for windows. Time to go
redownload pkunzip DOS...

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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Compression
Date: 13 Jan 2001 17:05:35
Message: <3A60D12C.2476E70B@gmx.de>
David Fontaine wrote:
> 
> I thought you meant that that could be done with pkzip for windows. Time to go
> redownload pkunzip DOS...
> 

no, just plain unzip, for example:

ftp://ftp.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/WIN32/

Christoph

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Compression
Date: 13 Jan 2001 17:08:30
Message: <3A60D0AF.80523AAA@faricy.net>
Christoph Hormann wrote:

> > I thought you meant that that could be done with pkzip for windows. Time to go
> > redownload pkunzip DOS...
> >
>
> no, just plain unzip, for example:
>
> ftp://ftp.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/WIN32/

Tnx, but I've already dl'ed pkzip dos 2.50 and made the batch file and set it to
default action. Too fast for ya. ;)

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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Compression
Date: 13 Jan 2001 17:25:46
Message: <3A60D5E9.F6C58796@gmx.de>
David Fontaine wrote:
> 
> Tnx, but I've already dl'ed pkzip dos 2.50 and made the batch file and set it to
> default action. Too fast for ya. ;)
> 

Well, it is probably slower and cannot handle long filenames...

:-)

Christoph

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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Compression
Date: 13 Jan 2001 18:50:54
Message: <3a60e9de@news.povray.org>
"Warp" wrote:
> Rune wrote:
> : My idea is to create a new format that combines the
> : best from PCM and mesh2.
>
>   We have been planning for an extended PCM format
> which will support uv-mapping and per-triangle/per-vertex
> texturing (and even texture definitions inside the PCM
> file).
>   The format is quite finished, but I have been
> "coding" support for it into the compressor for the
> last half year (that is, I haven't done anything ;) ).

I'd be very interested in more information about this format.
More specifically the new format definition.

Rune
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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Compression
Date: 13 Jan 2001 22:17:20
Message: <3A6119BF.6F0D307F@videotron.ca>
Christoph Hormann wrote:
> 
> David Fontaine wrote:
> >
> > Tnx, but I've already dl'ed pkzip dos 2.50 and made the batch file and set it to
> > default action. Too fast for ya. ;)
> >
> 
> Well, it is probably slower and cannot handle long filenames...
> 

I haven't used pk(un)zip 2.50 in ages, but I seem to remember it did
handle long file names properly.

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From: Mark Wagner
Subject: Re: Compression
Date: 13 Jan 2001 23:15:52
Message: <3a6127f8$1@news.povray.org>
Francois Labreque wrote in message <3A6119BF.6F0D307F@videotron.ca>...

>I haven't used pk(un)zip 2.50 in ages, but I seem to remember it did
>handle long file names properly.


Except under Windows NT.


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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Compression
Date: 13 Jan 2001 23:42:58
Message: <3A612D22.5F1B06C8@faricy.net>
Christoph Hormann wrote:

> > Tnx, but I've already dl'ed pkzip dos 2.50 and made the batch file and set it to
> > default action. Too fast for ya. ;)
> >
>
> Well, it is probably slower and cannot handle long filenames...

But it can. As for speed, right now the biggest time-consumer is having to close the
DOS window.

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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Compression
Date: 14 Jan 2001 02:38:34
Message: <opk26t08lo2o5r33n0fk92lj8fflgrfd7c@4ax.com>
On 13 Jan 2001 13:42:51 -0500, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:

>Peter Popov <pet### [at] vipbg> wrote:
>: RAR is available for DOS, Windows, Mac and *x. What more is there? :)

>  I have zip, rar, lha, gzip and bzip2 (and other less known)
>compression/decompression and arj decompression software in this machine
>(I think they are all generic unix programs).

>  I think that's mostly enough.

I meant, what more was there, OS-wise :)
I also have uc3, yac, ain, 

>  (Btw, bzip2 compresses better in almost every case and faster in most
>cases than any of the other compression softwares; I wonder why it isn't
>more popular in Windows systems...)

The best compressor I've seen, compression-wise, is yac (Yet Another
Compressor). It was incredibly slow to compress, though (decompression
speed was normal). It was designed for BBS mail (anyone remember Blue
Wave? :) ) as it could do successive archiving. It was great as it
could only send you the part of the archive that you didn't have and
would join it seamlessly with your archive, regardless if the data
inside was a single file which has changed or many little files. It
was great at tracking changes.

ZIP ruled the DOS world until ARJ came out. After that RAR and UC2
offered better compression and AIN was basically a fast ARJ (with a
bit lower compression). ZIP came back with the invasion of the
Internet and long file names and Winzip seems to rule the Windows
world now. RAR is still used for downloads but you will mostly find it
in crackz/warez sites (I don't know why). As of bzip2... well... bzip2
is best at text files (as is lha, I've never seen anything better that
lha for compressing large volumes of ASCII) so that might have
something to do with it. I am not sure if it needs a 32-it envoronment
or large amounts of memory (like 1MB for a hash table / dictionary)
but that would explain why it was mostly *x-only for a long time.


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