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From: Sander
Subject: Re: books
Date: 12 Feb 2001 05:37:26
Message: <MPG.14f1db4327fea4449896df@NEWS.POVRAY.ORG>
In article <gn4b8t0r7ricb9feu7vv9064dt6u8m7f55@4ax.com>, Alan Kong 
says...
> <snip>
> (Followups-To: povray.off-topic, please.)
> 
> 
I was wondering where to find it, unless you refer to 'unofficial p.o-
t'??
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From: Sander
Subject: Re: books
Date: 12 Feb 2001 05:44:45
Message: <MPG.14f1dd2766c4f05a9896e0@NEWS.POVRAY.ORG>
In article <gn4b8t0r7ricb9feu7vv9064dt6u8m7f55@4ax.com>, Alan Kong 
says...

Point is I can't seem to get p.o-t as a new group, whatever I try 
(MicroPlanet Gravity).

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From: Alan Kong
Subject: Re: books
Date: 12 Feb 2001 11:27:08
Message: <mh2g8tgvt4u029t6d8s4eu9ot4k3tnta5l@4ax.com>
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:45:20 +0100 Sander wrote:

>Point is I can't seem to get p.o-t as a new group, whatever I try 
>(MicroPlanet Gravity).

  Hi, Sander. I don't have any advice to offer for your newsreader.
There should be a way to refresh or reset the groups list. P.o-t is
definitely open - people have been posting and replying to it for many
days now.

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From: Ryan Constantine
Subject: Re: books
Date: 12 Feb 2001 11:56:07
Message: <3A8815A7.7A8BCD47@ucdavis.edu>
what if there were two image groups?  there could be p.i.wip, and
p.i.final.  and how about a group called p.art-technique or something
like that?  that's where people would discuss artistic technique.  such
topics might include texturing, lighting, scene composition, camera
property selection, photorealism, etc.

Vahur Krouverk wrote:
> 
> Ryan Constantine wrote:
> >
> > i'm also wondering about the renderman books since one of our
> > povers has added its shading language to his own compile of pov.
> I'd recommend ARM (Advanced RenderMan) by Gritz and Apodaca. It contains
> quite a lot of information and examples about shaders. Additionally it
> contains some recommendations from CGI industry people about staging and
> lighting as well.
> 
> > there
> > are also books out there about lighting and staging (staging being the
> > placement of camera and objects in a scene).
> I have Jeremy Birn's "[digital]lighting and rendering". It contains
> basic stuff about scene, lighting and composition setup. For medium or
> advanced users there is nothing new, but for such beginner in this area
> like me, it contains some of good tips and tricks.
> 
> [Snip]
> Yes, seems, like this server is more devoted to technical discussion
> instead of artistical (although binaries.images contains some artistical
> advices). Perhaps this is due to the fact, that when one is using pure
> POV-Ray, then technical part will consume such amount of effort, that
> there will be no more resources (devotion, will, wish, ideas etc.) for
> composition. And most of users are amateurs in this area, without any
> art education.
> Perhaps there should be separate group for composition etc.? Although
> I'm not sure how this will work. Current approach (one posts picture to
> p.b.i and others recommend and advice) seems to be best so far.


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