what if there were two image groups?  there could be p.i.wip, and
p.i.final.  and how about a group called p.art-technique or something
like that?  that's where people would discuss artistic technique.  such
topics might include texturing, lighting, scene composition, camera
property selection, photorealism, etc.

Vahur Krouverk wrote:
> 
> Ryan Constantine wrote:
> >
> > i'm also wondering about the renderman books since one of our
> > povers has added its shading language to his own compile of pov.
> I'd recommend ARM (Advanced RenderMan) by Gritz and Apodaca. It contains
> quite a lot of information and examples about shaders. Additionally it
> contains some recommendations from CGI industry people about staging and
> lighting as well.
> 
> > there
> > are also books out there about lighting and staging (staging being the
> > placement of camera and objects in a scene).
> I have Jeremy Birn's "[digital]lighting and rendering". It contains
> basic stuff about scene, lighting and composition setup. For medium or
> advanced users there is nothing new, but for such beginner in this area
> like me, it contains some of good tips and tricks.
> 
> [Snip]
> Yes, seems, like this server is more devoted to technical discussion
> instead of artistical (although binaries.images contains some artistical
> advices). Perhaps this is due to the fact, that when one is using pure
> POV-Ray, then technical part will consume such amount of effort, that
> there will be no more resources (devotion, will, wish, ideas etc.) for
> composition. And most of users are amateurs in this area, without any
> art education.
> Perhaps there should be separate group for composition etc.? Although
> I'm not sure how this will work. Current approach (one posts picture to
> p.b.i and others recommend and advice) seems to be best so far.

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