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From: Rune
Subject: Skip the Logo Contest Voting?
Date: 12 Oct 2000 11:59:40
Message: <39e5a7ac@news.povray.org>
It has now been possible for several months to submit logos for the POV-Ray
Logo Contest.
The deadline is October 31.

So far 2 logos have been submitted, and there's no signs of any logos being
submitted later.

Even if the number rises to 3 or 4 logos I still think it's pointless to
have a voting of the best logo.

The reason:

"The official position of the POV-Team for this competition is as follows:

The POV-Team reserves the right to reject any 'winning' entry they feel does
not meet with their expectations. A second or third place entry is just as
likely as a first place entry to be chosen by the POV-Team as their official
logo, or none at all. This is at the sole discretion of the POV-Team and
will be decided internally by them."

So with only a few logos a voting will not have any effect at all.
Therefore I think we should just skip the voting, and let the POV-Team
choose any (or none) of the submitted logos.

What do you think?

Greetings,

Rune
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From: ddombrow
Subject: Re: Skip the Logo Contest Voting?
Date: 12 Oct 2000 13:53:52
Message: <39e5c270$1@news.povray.org>
Certainly it would be nice to have a pov logo accepted by the team, but is
this the main focus. And even if it is, I would assume the pov-team would
like an idea of which logo is preferred in the community. So, I would say
there should still be a vote, no matter what.

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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Skip the Logo Contest Voting?
Date: 12 Oct 2000 14:30:26
Message: <39e5cb02@news.povray.org>
"ddombrow" wrote:
> Certainly it would be nice to have a pov logo accepted by
> the team, but is this the main focus.

Yes, indeed it is.

I know that contests like this one have other qualities too, like having a
good time competing with each other, but in this contest the main goal is to
actually find a good logo for POV-Ray.

> And even if it is, I would assume the pov-team would like an idea
> of which logo is preferred in the community. So, I would say there
> should still be a vote, no matter what.

OK, thanks for your input. I'll wait for more replies and then decide what
to do.

By the way, here's the url of the Logo Contest if anyone would like to see
it:
http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk/logo/logo.html

Rune
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Skip the Logo Contest Voting?
Date: 12 Oct 2000 15:40:51
Message: <39e5db82@news.povray.org>
Rune <run### [at] inamecom> wrote:
: So far 2 logos have been submitted, and there's no signs of any logos being
: submitted later.

  The reason for this might be that the first logo competition was more or
less useless. A lot more people participated in that one. What for? Nothing?
  Perhaps people (subconciosly) think "what's the point in participating in
another logo competition? I already participated in one".

  Just a thought.

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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Skip the Logo Contest Voting?
Date: 12 Oct 2000 20:24:32
Message: <39e61e00@news.povray.org>
"Warp" wrote:
> Rune wrote:
> : So far 2 logos have been submitted, and there's no signs of
> : any logos being submitted later.
>
>   The reason for this might be that the first logo competition
> was more or less useless. A lot more people participated in
> that one. What for? Nothing?

No. See below.

>   Perhaps people (subconciosly) think "what's the point in
> participating in another logo competition? I already
> participated in one".

Of course it would be nice with more logos submitted, but I'm not
complaining.

The thing is, that the logos in the old competition indirectly are in the
new contest too.

You see, we already voted about the old logos, and the one that won the
voting was TonyB's "PoV-logo".

So if that logo was submitted in the new contest too, it would bring the
"fruit" of the old competition into the new contest.

When TonyB hasn't submitted his "PoV-logo" to the new contest it's probably
because it seems that his newer "eye-logo" seems to be much more popular, so
the "PoV-logo" *probably* wouldn't win anyway.

And now the conclusion: The "old" logos were not submitted in vain; they
have just been part of a selective process to find the best logo. The reason
we have only 2 submitted logos now is that much of the selective process has
already occurred.

Did that make sense?

Rune
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Skip the Logo Contest Voting?
Date: 15 Oct 2000 15:40:45
Message: <39e9cffd@news.povray.org>
I would really appreciate some more feedback.

Rune
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From: Tony[B]
Subject: Re: Skip the Logo Contest Voting?
Date: 15 Oct 2000 18:47:44
Message: <39e9fbd0@news.povray.org>
<feedback>In my opinion, it seems that people lost interest in the
competition the minute that the first one was over. :(  I would suggest
going directly to the POV-Team for their decision.</feedback>


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From: Lewis
Subject: Re: Skip the Logo Contest Voting?
Date: 15 Oct 2000 20:28:40
Message: <39EA12D0.16E82CE5@ss.com>
Couldn't help it


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Skip the Logo Contest Voting?
Date: 15 Oct 2000 23:17:32
Message: <39ea3b0c@news.povray.org>
"Tony[B]" wrote:
> <feedback>In my opinion, it seems that people lost interest in the
> competition the minute that the first one was over. :(  I would suggest
> going directly to the POV-Team for their decision.</feedback>

Thanks for the feedback!

I'll wait a little longer before I make up my mind, but I think I'll just
skip the voting and let the POV-Team decide.

Rune
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Skip the Logo Contest Voting?
Date: 15 Oct 2000 23:17:33
Message: <39ea3b0d@news.povray.org>
"Lewis" wrote:
> Couldn't help it

Sorry, but I'm not sure what you mean. Couldn't help what?

Rune
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