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"vaihtoehto" wrote:
> would those 3 custom versions be obligatory?
I guess not. They are meant to show how/if the logo can be made
interesting/fancy and in how flexible it is (a flexible logo can be
presented in many different ways).
I think it should be encouraged to make those custom versions, but that it
should be up to the logo designer if he/she wants to make 0, 1, 2, or 3 of
the custom versions. I would strongly suggest that at least one were made
though.
I also think that we could help each other making logo versions. Like if
person A makes a nice logo, but doesn't know how to make it "fancy", person
B be could make a fancy version of it. Person A and B then could agree to
use person B's work for one of the custom formats in the submission.
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> I think the best way to determine the sizes
> and colors of the logos is to know where and
> how they are going to be used.
I agree. I attempted to do that too.
However, I think that the formats submitted to the contest are previews or
examples only. We can always render the logo in other resolutions than the
submitted ones after the contest. Therefore we don't need to worry about
scaling up or down the logos. We only should concentrate on presenting the
logos for the voters in a way so that they can imagine how the logos will
look in any resolution.
If we present the logos in a rather small resolution and a rather big
resolution, they can imagine by themselves how other resolutions will look.
If we also show a few "fancy" ways of presenting the logos, they can maybe
imagine for themselves how flexible the logo is, and how it could look when
presented in other fancy ways.
I think your suggestions are quite good, but I personally would prefer the
following:
1) 2 black and white formats (with anti-aliasing). One in 32x32. One in
120x120 or any other resolution with max 14400 pixels. These two formats
should be identical, except for the size. They are required. [Application
starter], [Web-Page], ['Made with POV' logo].
(The reason I say [Application starter] and [Web-Page] is that some people
may prefer the black and white version instead of the color one.)
2) 2 color formats. Plain colors and gradients are allowed, but not
"effects" such as shading or reflection etc. . One in 32x32. One in 120x120
or any other resolution with max 14400 pixels. These two formats should be
identical, except for the size. They are optional. [Application starter],
[Web-Page], [Banner and Homepage].
(The reason I say [Banner and Homepage] is that some people may prefer the
plain color version instead of the "fancy" ones.)
3) 3 custom (or "fancy") formats. All effects are allowed. 2 of them are in
180x180 or any resolution with max 32400 pixels. One of them is in 360x360
or any resolution with max 129600 pixels. These three formats can be
completely different from each other. They are optional. [Web-Page], [Banner
and Homepage], [splash-screen], [wallpaper], [more...].
I think almost every possible use is covered in by these formats, when you
keep in mind that they are previews only.
What do you think?
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Rune
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"Bill DeWitt" wrote:
> "Ken" wrote:
> > Bill DeWitt wrote:
> >
> > > See Rune? TonyB thinks -my- suggestions
> > > are the best... 8-)
> >
> > I don't think Rune likes mine however :(
>
> I am pretty sure TonyB was talking about my
> comments of May 3rd where I suggested that
> the logo should be an object and must be
> submitted with pov-code. But I agree, his
> comments were a -stinging- rebuttal of your
> Left-Handed arguments of February.
I'm completely lost now.
Comments of May? Arguments of February? Stinging rebuttal?
I'm not sure what you're referring to; I thought we were discussing things
in *this* thread only.
I'm not sure what your point is either, and I would appreciate if you
explained it.
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"TonyB" wrote:
> Sounds OK.
What I wrote sounds OK?
OK, thanks! :-)
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"Ken" wrote:
> Bill DeWitt wrote:
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> > See Rune? TonyB thinks -my- suggestions are the best... 8-)
>
> I don't think Rune likes mine however :(
I'm not sure what suggestions of yours you are referring to.
Anyway, it doesn't matter so much what I think. I try to look at what the
majority thinks and make my decisions accordingly. I can only judge from the
responses I get, though. That's why I always encourage people to reply if
they have any opinion at all.
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"Ken" wrote:
> I don't see why the logos should be compared
> at all. Each should be evaluated for its
> individual merits and for no other reason.
> I hate conformity !
A good logo has certain qualities, and it is in our interest to make those
qualities (or lack thereof) visible to the voter. We should in the
submission formats present the logos in some of the same ways as we expect
them to be presented when they're going to be used for real.
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<ffj### [at] club-internet fr> wrote:
>To sum up, I think the following formats for the 'contest' should be :
Hi, Fabien. Could you please post in plain text only? Some visitors,
such as myself, use newsreaders that do not decode HTML so it's sort of
redundant on our space-limited server to post both formats.
Thank you for your participation.
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Rune wrote:
> examples only. We can always render the logo in other resolutions than the
> submitted ones after the contest.
Assuming the logo was created with POV-Ray and not in some graphics
program like photoshop. In which case the size of the submitted logo
becomes very important. Most images lose quality when being resized
in a graphic program.
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"Ken" wrote:
> Rune wrote:
>
> > examples only. We can always render the
> > logo in other resolutions than the
> > submitted ones after the contest.
>
> Assuming the logo was created with POV-Ray
> and not in some graphics program like
> photoshop. In which case the size of the
> submitted logo becomes very important.
> Most images lose quality when being resized
> in a graphic program.
I'm pretty sure that at least the black and white version of a logo is
always recreational, if not in POV-Ray, then at least in a vector based 2D
graphics program. I think the color version of a logo will be too. The
"fancy" versions will probably not be easy to recreate in other programs,
but then, the "fancy" version are only examples. They are not meant to be
"official" like the black and white version and the color version is.
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"Rune" <run### [at] inamecom> wrote :
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> I'm not sure what you're referring to; I thought we were discussing things
> in *this* thread only.
>
> I'm not sure what your point is either, and I would appreciate if you
> explained it.
I was referring to the phenomena that you referred to in your reply to
TonyB's post.
> What I wrote sounds OK?
You think he was talking about what you wrote, I think he was talking
about what I wrote, Ken thinks whatever 'oh's and 'one's such a construct
thinks in the silicone lattice of his mindchips... anyway, TonyB should
quote a little bit of the post he is responding to so these sort of
conversations don't happen again..
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