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From: Rune
Subject: PLC: Black and white or not?
Date: 6 May 2000 17:21:30
Message: <3914549a@news.povray.org>
In the thread "PLC: General qualities of the logo" there is a big discussion
about whether or not the logo *must* be presentable in black and white.

People can't quite agree no matter how much arguing is done, but I guess
that's just natural.

Since we can't reach a conclusion by arguing, I think we could make a
"mini-voting" about the question, and see people's opinions that way. Let's
say, if more than 60% agree, then we have our conclusion. If not, we'll have
to find another way to find out.

I have not been able to summarize the arguments I've seen, so I encourage
everybody to read the thread "PLC: General qualities of the logo" and as
many of the replies as possible before voting here.

Remember: This voting is not about if the logos *should* be presentable in
black and white. It is about if the logos *must* be presentable in black and
white. If we reach a conclusion, that conclusion will be a rule everyone
must follow.

Reply to this message with your vote.

You can vote "yes" or "no", but please don't come with arguments here. Post
your arguments in the thread "PLC: General qualities of the logo" if you
want.

So here's the question we vote about:

Must the logo be presentable and easy recognizable when viewed in just black
and white (with no shades of gray)? (yes or no)

Greetings,

Rune

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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: Black and white or not?
Date: 6 May 2000 17:46:05
Message: <39145a5d@news.povray.org>
>Must the logo be presentable and easy recognizable when viewed
>in just black and white (with no shades of gray)? (yes or no)

Preferably yes, but also consider this: who would really want to see the
logo like that? Most people would use it in color form.


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From: vaihtoehto
Subject: Re: Black and white or not?
Date: 6 May 2000 19:00:11
Message: <39146bbb@news.povray.org>
>Must the logo be presentable and easy recognizable when viewed in just
black
>and white (with no shades of gray)? (yes or no)

yes.
although i would use shades of gray, too.. was that an argument?:)


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: PLC: Black and white or not?
Date: 6 May 2000 19:06:24
Message: <39146C9D.5DC45922@pacbell.net>
An absolute requirement ? Absolutely not !


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: Black and white or not?
Date: 6 May 2000 19:25:14
Message: <3914719a@news.povray.org>
"Rune" <run### [at] inamecom> wrote in message
news:3914549a@news.povray.org...
> In the thread "PLC: General qualities of the logo" there is a big
discussion
> about whether or not the logo *must* be presentable in black and white.
>

    Again, let the author submit whatever they want and let the final voting
decide if it was a good Idea...

    I would hate to see the best possible Logo go unsubmitted because it
doesn't work in 2D or B/W...


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Black and white or not?
Date: 6 May 2000 20:59:03
Message: <39148797@news.povray.org>
"TonyB" <ben### [at] panamac-comnet> wrote in message
news:39145a5d@news.povray.org...
> >Must the logo be presentable and easy recognizable when viewed
> >in just black and white (with no shades of gray)? (yes or no)
>
> Preferably yes, but also consider this: who would really want to see the
> logo like that? Most people would use it in color form.

If, for example, I wanted to put the logo on an image, like a watermark.

If the image didn't have many bright colors it would ruin the image to have
that colorful mark down in the corner. Simply converting the colors to
grayscale might not work. Unless there was a rather "flat" area in the
corner of the image, it would require a logo with high contrast in order to
make the logo visible and recognizable.

It's all about flexibility.

Greetings,

Rune

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From: Kari Kivisalo
Subject: Re: PLC: Black and white or not?
Date: 7 May 2000 17:22:35
Message: <3915A689.BFF9D2DC@kivisalo.net>
Yes.


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Black and white or not?
Date: 8 May 2000 15:09:17
Message: <3916d89d@news.povray.org>
> Must the logo be presentable and easy
> recognizable when viewed in just black
> and white (with no shades of gray)?

Yes.

Greetings,

Rune

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From: Peter J  Holzer
Subject: Re: Black and white or not?
Date: 9 May 2000 00:02:06
Message: <slrn8hehm5.pd.hjp-usenet@teal.h.hjp.at>
On Mon, 8 May 2000 15:51:28 +0200, Rune wrote:
>> Must the logo be presentable and easy
>> recognizable when viewed in just black
>> and white (with no shades of gray)?
>
>Yes.

You are voting on your own questions in public? Does that count as an
election campaign? :-)

ObVote: yes.

	hp


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From: Fabien Hénon
Subject: Re: PLC: Black and white or not?
Date: 9 May 2000 21:57:58
Message: <39187EFF.EDA80707@club-internet.fr>
Short answer : No

In pure Black & White : No
In shades of gray : Yes

Pure black and white is too destructive and would surely ruin any logo (even the
best one).
The size of the logo is already a limit in itself, turning it into B&W would
make it unrecognizable.



Fabien Hénon



Rune a écrit :

> In the thread "PLC: General qualities of the logo" there is a big discussion
> about whether or not the logo *must* be presentable in black and white.
>
> People can't quite agree no matter how much arguing is done, but I guess
> that's just natural.
>
> Since we can't reach a conclusion by arguing, I think we could make a
> "mini-voting" about the question, and see people's opinions that way. Let's
> say, if more than 60% agree, then we have our conclusion. If not, we'll have
> to find another way to find out.
>
> I have not been able to summarize the arguments I've seen, so I encourage
> everybody to read the thread "PLC: General qualities of the logo" and as
> many of the replies as possible before voting here.
>
> Remember: This voting is not about if the logos *should* be presentable in
> black and white. It is about if the logos *must* be presentable in black and
> white. If we reach a conclusion, that conclusion will be a rule everyone
> must follow.
>
> Reply to this message with your vote.
>
> You can vote "yes" or "no", but please don't come with arguments here. Post
> your arguments in the thread "PLC: General qualities of the logo" if you
> want.
>
> So here's the question we vote about:
>
> Must the logo be presentable and easy recognizable when viewed in just black
> and white (with no shades of gray)? (yes or no)
>
> Greetings,
>
> Rune
>
> ---
> Updated April 25: http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk
> Containing 3D images, stereograms, tutorials,
> The POV Desktop Theme, 350+ raytracing jokes,
> miscellaneous other things, and a lot of fun!


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