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From: Justin Clark
Subject: povray user count
Date: 30 Jan 2000 18:05:12
Message: <3894c3a8@news.povray.org>
Hi,

I was wondering if anyone can give me an approximate idea as to how many
povray users there are right now?

-Justin


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: povray user count
Date: 30 Jan 2000 18:16:48
Message: <3894C631.BB207664@pacbell.net>
Justin Clark wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I was wondering if anyone can give me an approximate idea as to how many
> povray users there are right now?
> 
> -Justin

The POV-Team keeps statistics on the traffic at their site but it would
be almost impossible using those statistics to determine the size of
their user base. It might give you some insight however looking at
the stats below for the month of Nov. 1999. My personal home page,
dedicated to POV-Ray, has had 12,000+ visitors since it went online
in April of last year. I would guess that there is a fairly large
POV-User base but I would not care to guess at how many.


The statistics for the POV-Ray home page at - http://www.povray.org

Daily Averages for the month of November 1999

Total Hits                 97,428
Files Downloaded           85,479
Pages Accessed             40,219

Monthly Totals for the month of November 1999

Total Hits              2,922,863
Files Downloaded        2,565,378
Pages Accessed          1,206,595
Bandwidth in KBytes    74,387,415

-- 
Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: povray user count
Date: 30 Jan 2000 18:38:50
Message: <3894CB62.A8D4224D@faricy.net>
> Daily Averages for the month of November 1999
>
> Total Hits                 97,428
> Files Downloaded           85,479
> Pages Accessed             40,219
>
> Monthly Totals for the month of November 1999
>
> Total Hits              2,922,863
> Files Downloaded        2,565,378
> Pages Accessed          1,206,595
> Bandwidth in KBytes    74,387,415

Wow! That's a lot!

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From: mr art
Subject: Re: povray user count
Date: 30 Jan 2000 18:46:03
Message: <3894CD4E.418EF04F@gci.net>
Well, I can account for 107 different names. But that is only what
is seen on a regular basis in these news groups.

Justin Clark wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I was wondering if anyone can give me an approximate idea as to how many
> povray users there are right now?
> 
> -Justin

-- 
Mr. Art

"Often the appearance of reality is more important 
than the reality of the appearance."
Bill DeWitt 2000


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: povray user count
Date: 30 Jan 2000 20:32:35
Message: <3894e633@news.povray.org>
I go to Kens web page for the links a several times a month on average and I
might be average too (not the povray links), so just going by that alone with
perhaps 15,000 accesses a year divide 15000 by 5 first = 3000 people.
Maybe the povray downloads is best to judge the number of people by but still
you'd want to divide that number by the average time a single person gets a file
(the povray distributions I take it, if not then various FTP d/l's need to be
subtracted out. Let's say that would be 1/25 of the 2.5 million d/l's just to
wild guess for actual POV-Ray only).  I'll conclude then that it's 1 million POV
d/l's per month, and over a longer period of time that would mean there might be
a few repeat d/l's to get updated versions.  Subtract out the multiple platform
users and it might cut this in half, then take away some errant re-d/l's for
whatever reason (bad d/l) and the final number might be 1/4 million people.  But
then maybe double that back just because....
Final total guesstamation: 500,000 POV-Ray users out there, whether they be
one-time users or full-time.
It's okay if you don't believe me though, I don't either.

Bob

"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
news:3894C631.BB207664@pacbell.net...
|
|
| Justin Clark wrote:
| >
| > Hi,
| >
| > I was wondering if anyone can give me an approximate idea as to how many
| > povray users there are right now?
| >
| > -Justin
|
| The POV-Team keeps statistics on the traffic at their site but it would
| be almost impossible using those statistics to determine the size of
| their user base. It might give you some insight however looking at
| the stats below for the month of Nov. 1999. My personal home page,
| dedicated to POV-Ray, has had 12,000+ visitors since it went online
| in April of last year. I would guess that there is a fairly large
| POV-User base but I would not care to guess at how many.
|
|
| The statistics for the POV-Ray home page at - http://www.povray.org
|
| Daily Averages for the month of November 1999
|
| Total Hits                 97,428
| Files Downloaded           85,479
| Pages Accessed             40,219
|
| Monthly Totals for the month of November 1999
|
| Total Hits              2,922,863
| Files Downloaded        2,565,378
| Pages Accessed          1,206,595
| Bandwidth in KBytes    74,387,415
|
| --
| Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
| http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: povray user count
Date: 30 Jan 2000 20:43:18
Message: <3894e8b6@news.povray.org>
Mistake.  2.5 million divided by 25 is 100,000 not 1 million.  Continuing on
from there ends up at 50,000 people.  Much more believable I think, even if it
was about as haphazard a statistical analysis as it gets.

Bob

"Bob Hughes" <omn### [at] hotmailcom?subject=PoV-News:> wrote in message
news:3894e633@news.povray.org...
| I go to Kens web page for the links a several times a month on average and I
| might be average too (not the povray links), so just going by that alone with
| perhaps 15,000 accesses a year divide 15000 by 5 first = 3000 people.
| Maybe the povray downloads is best to judge the number of people by but still
| you'd want to divide that number by the average time a single person gets a
file
| (the povray distributions I take it, if not then various FTP d/l's need to be
| subtracted out. Let's say that would be 1/25 of the 2.5 million d/l's just to
| wild guess for actual POV-Ray only).  I'll conclude then that it's 1 million
POV
| d/l's per month, and over a longer period of time that would mean there might
be
| a few repeat d/l's to get updated versions.  Subtract out the multiple
platform
| users and it might cut this in half, then take away some errant re-d/l's for
| whatever reason (bad d/l) and the final number might be 1/4 million people.
But
| then maybe double that back just because....
| Final total guesstamation: 500,000 POV-Ray users out there, whether they be
| one-time users or full-time.
| It's okay if you don't believe me though, I don't either.
|
| Bob
|
| "Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
| news:3894C631.BB207664@pacbell.net...
| |
| |
| | Justin Clark wrote:
| | >
| | > Hi,
| | >
| | > I was wondering if anyone can give me an approximate idea as to how many
| | > povray users there are right now?
| | >
| | > -Justin
| |
| | The POV-Team keeps statistics on the traffic at their site but it would
| | be almost impossible using those statistics to determine the size of
| | their user base. It might give you some insight however looking at
| | the stats below for the month of Nov. 1999. My personal home page,
| | dedicated to POV-Ray, has had 12,000+ visitors since it went online
| | in April of last year. I would guess that there is a fairly large
| | POV-User base but I would not care to guess at how many.
| |
| |
| | The statistics for the POV-Ray home page at - http://www.povray.org
| |
| | Daily Averages for the month of November 1999
| |
| | Total Hits                 97,428
| | Files Downloaded           85,479
| | Pages Accessed             40,219
| |
| | Monthly Totals for the month of November 1999
| |
| | Total Hits              2,922,863
| | Files Downloaded        2,565,378
| | Pages Accessed          1,206,595
| | Bandwidth in KBytes    74,387,415
| |
| | --
| | Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
| | http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/
|
|


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From: Pavel Rumyantsev
Subject: Re: povray user count
Date: 31 Jan 2000 00:49:47
Message: <389521E7.2FA8E1CB@mv.ru>
I read this newsgroups constantly, but the main POV-Ray user in our family is
my daughter. She doesn't have Internet access unfortunately. So you can add

but only a little part of them write in these newsgroups.

With best regards,

Pavel Rumyantsev

"mr.art" wrote:

> Well, I can account for 107 different names. But that is only what
> is seen on a regular basis in these news groups.
>
> Justin Clark wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone can give me an approximate idea as to how many
> > povray users there are right now?
> >
> > -Justin
>
> --
> Mr. Art
>
> "Often the appearance of reality is more important
> than the reality of the appearance."
> Bill DeWitt 2000


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From: Matt Giwer
Subject: Re: povray user count
Date: 31 Jan 2000 05:27:44
Message: <362C57DF.C453B841@ij.net>
Ken wrote:

> Monthly Totals for the month of November 1999
>
> Total Hits              2,922,863
> Files Downloaded        2,565,378
> Pages Accessed          1,206,595
> Bandwidth in KBytes    74,387,415

    Which brings up a question, where the hell are they? By the 1/10th of 1%
rule there should be 2900 entries to the IRTC. And even 1/100th of 1% aren't
there.

    Not that I am encouraging them...

--
The question is not, "Who will let me do it?"
The question is, "Who will stop me?"


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From: Peter Warren
Subject: Re: povray user count
Date: 31 Jan 2000 06:08:16
Message: <38956d20@news.povray.org>
500,000.
This sounds about right to me.
I once 'tried' to calculate this number (of users)
and this is the approximate number I came up with.

WCFM (What Counts For Me) and my efforts I would
add 500,003.

Hey, It's a start.

Peter Warren
war### [at] hotmailcom


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From: Mark Gordon
Subject: Re: povray user count
Date: 31 Jan 2000 08:57:49
Message: <3895957D.22F7979E@mailbag.com>
Ken wrote:

> The statistics for the POV-Ray home page at - http://www.povray.org
> 
> Daily Averages for the month of November 1999
> 
> Total Hits                 97,428
> Files Downloaded           85,479
> Pages Accessed             40,219

This isn't just a count of the various POV-Ray packages, but also all
the HTML documents (Pages Accessed, inflated further by the use of
frames) and associated graphics (most of the difference between Files
Downloaded and Pages Accessed).  Adjust by a factor of 10 or 20 to
calculate how many people visited the sites (repeat visitors within a
given month most likely using cached files).

-Mark Gordon


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