On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 18:20:23 -0600, David Fontaine <dav### [at] faricynet>
wrote:

>I used 'polygon', of course! Can you make overlapping areas, or would I need a
>compound definition of surrounding area? 

You can use overlapping areas. The first one (in the order listed in
the map) to match the cursor position is sent the onClick event.


Peter Popov
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"Peter Popov" <pet### [at] usanet> wrote in message
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| On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 18:20:23 -0600, David Fontaine <dav### [at] faricynet>
| wrote:
|
| >I used 'polygon', of course! Can you make overlapping areas, or would I need
a
| >compound definition of surrounding area?
|
| You can use overlapping areas. The first one (in the order listed in
| the map) to match the cursor position is sent the onClick event.

hah... yeah, forgot about that one, just not as easy to use unless you have a
imagemap-making html program.

Bob

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David Fontaine wrote:

> > I agree! I often take a look at the status bar when the mouse is over the
> > link to see where the link leads to. If the link is an image for example
> > (like in your gallery), I like to see if the linked object is a HTML page
> > that contains the image, or if it is the image directly. That sort of stuff.
> > And I just hate it if I can't see this information, because the page chooses
> > to overwrite the statusbar with some own information.
>
> This is the only way I see to do it though.
>
> > I agree with Jon's other post: Use the ALT-attribute of the link tag for
> > your information. Then the user will see your information in a small
> > tool-tip bubble while the mouse pointer rests over the link.
>
> It doesn't work in Netscape with image maps. That was the whole problem in the
> first place.
>

Aha! I found the problem!

You've fixed it by now, but I'll post this for others to know.

The HTML specs say that you need to have an ALT attribute on all AREA tags in the
imagemap. Any validator will show this as a problem. If you follow the practice
of cleaning up all validation errors, you'll be saved. Netscape looks for the
ALT text and displays that in the status bar when you move around.

So for anyone out there doing an image map, remember to always include those ALT
attributes.

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David Fontaine wrote:

> Well, I'm gonna go ahead with the mouseover status-bar thing. I know,
> it's considered "bad", blah blah blah, but it's the only way I see to do
> it given that NS won't show the ALT ot TITLE in tooltips.

Which version of NS are you checking with? Things work fine for me.

NS doesn't do a pop-up, but it does show the ALT text in the status bar.

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I do, or at least try to remember to do so.

Bob

"Jon A. Cruz" <jon### [at] geocitiescom> wrote in message
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| The HTML specs say that you need to have an ALT attribute on all AREA tags in
the
| imagemap. Any validator will show this as a problem. If you follow the
practice
| of cleaning up all validation errors, you'll be saved. Netscape looks for the
| ALT text and displays that in the status bar when you move around.
|
| So for anyone out there doing an image map, remember to always include those
ALT
| attributes.
|

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David Fontaine <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote in message
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> BTW someone said it would be better to link to the actual pics rather than
> the galleries; I didn't do this because AFAIK, isn't it bad netiquette? If
> you have an idea as to how to set up the links to go to the pic AND the
> gallery, tell me :-)

With a bit of JavaScript, do it like this (I write this off my head, there
are probably bugs in it, but you can catch the drift, if you need more help,
say so):

<script>
function showLink(pageName, pageURL, imageName, imageURL)
{
    doc = window.document;
    doc.writeln('<html>');
    doc.writeln('<head>HEADER STUFF HERE</head>');
    doc.writeln('<body>');
    doc.writeln('<p align="center">Artist Homepage: <a href="' + pageURL +
'">' + pageName + '</a></p>');
    doc.writeln('<p align="center">' + imageName + '</p>");
    doc.writeln('<p align="center"><image src="' + imageURL + '"></p>");
    doc.writeln('</body>');
    doc.writeln('</html>');
}
</script>


Somewhere, in your link you write (example):

<a href="???" onclick="showLink('Gilles Tran Homepage', 'http://www...',
'Image-Name', 'http://www..../...jpg'; return false">

A click on the link will start the JavaScript.
The script will replace the page with a new page, which contains a link to
the homepage of the artist, the name of the image, and the image itself.
I don't know if you need to have a valid URL in the href (where I wrote
"???"), I think it is not needed (because of the "return false" later in the
line), but you might have to experiment.
Of course, you can adjust the script to write a HTML page that fits into
your design (colors etc.).

Greetings,
Johannes.

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David Fontaine wrote in message <3891F5D0.9ABF951F@faricy.net>...
>BTW someone said it would be better to link to the actual pics rather than
>the galleries; I didn't do this because AFAIK, isn't it bad netiquette? If
>you have an idea as to how to set up the links to go to the pic AND the
>gallery, tell me :-)
David,
I don't know about anyone but I suggested that you link to the actual
pics.
It would definitely be bad netiquette to do so, I did not suggest
this.
I do, however, believe that the purpose of your "piece" is
defeated outside of this community.
If this is your goal. no problem.
If you did wish to expand your vision I was only pointing out
a possible problem.
Whatever,
Peter

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> Aha! I found the problem!
>
> You've fixed it by now, but I'll post this for others to know.
>
> The HTML specs say that you need to have an ALT attribute on all AREA tags in the
> imagemap. Any validator will show this as a problem. If you follow the practice
> of cleaning up all validation errors, you'll be saved. Netscape looks for the
> ALT text and displays that in the status bar when you move around.
>
> So for anyone out there doing an image map, remember to always include those ALT
> attributes.

What's a validator? I originally had all the ALT attribute on all of them but it did
*not* show up *anywhere* in Netscape. I have changed the ALT attrib.s to onMouseOver,
that is why it works now.

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> Which version of NS are you checking with? Things work fine for me.
>
> NS doesn't do a pop-up, but it does show the ALT text in the status bar.

4.7, and I was sure it wasn't. Oh well. It works now anyways.

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David Fontaine wrote:

>
> What's a validator? I originally had all the ALT attribute on all of them but it did
> *not* show up *anywhere* in Netscape. I have changed the ALT attrib.s to
onMouseOver,
> that is why it works now.

Well, it's strange, because it works for me. That's why I was asking which version of
Netscape you are using. Sometimes that's important to know.

But, more importantly, a validator is a program that checks your HTML against the
specifications to see if it is technically valid HTML. And there are also linters (or
style checkers) that check for 'fluff' or bad practices.

http://validator.w3.org/
http://www.htmlhelp.org/links/validators.htm




BTW, I think you overdid it with all the ";return true;"
onMouseOut="self.status='';re"...


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