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From: Nieminen Juha
Subject: Re: It's crazy, but I'm doing it...
Date: 11 Jan 2000 06:52:19
Message: <387b1973@news.povray.org>
Don't you know that Real Programmers Don't Use Basic? :)

-- 
main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/


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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: It's crazy, but I'm doing it...
Date: 11 Jan 2000 09:36:19
Message: <chrishuff_99-935882.09363511012000@news.povray.org>
In article <387B0EF8.719177E3@xs4all.nl>, Remco de Korte 
<rem### [at] xs4allnl> wrote:

> It's not the programming language but the programmer that makes a
> program.

Well, I have heard a saying that goes something like "A cook is only as 
good as his ingredients." I think it applies to programming, too.
Java maybe? It still isn't speedy, but is probably a lot more versatile 
and definitely more portable.


> As far as I can see from his page and SSS John can do far
> better in Quickbasic then most people could in any other language.

Well, I can't really tell, because I don't know of a QuickBasic for Mac. 
But he would have to be good in order to create the SSS.


> Admitted, QuickBasic isn't the latest RAD tool and won't get all the
> speed out of your machine but if you're used to POV parsing who cares?

Good point about the POV parsing...

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Chris Huff
e-mail: chr### [at] yahoocom
Web page: http://chrishuff.dhs.org/


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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: It's crazy, but I'm doing it...
Date: 11 Jan 2000 09:38:53
Message: <chrishuff_99-C9D3F8.09390911012000@news.povray.org>
In article <3879728E.A1990073@earthlink.net>, rdm### [at] earthlinknet wrote:

> A mac form. would be really nice, too few ( none besides blob sculptor ) 
> good modelers at all...

Umm, there is also jam(another blob modeller), MeshWork, and several 
others. Just none which fill the particular niche that this one fills.

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Chris Huff
e-mail: chr### [at] yahoocom
Web page: http://chrishuff.dhs.org/


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From: PoD
Subject: Re: It's crazy, but I'm doing it...
Date: 11 Jan 2000 10:09:02
Message: <387B4900.58DF0A56@merlin.net.au>
John VanSickle wrote:
> 
> That time off before I have to start on the next Rusty animation is
> coming in handy...
> 
> To facilitate the Subdivision Surface Suite--and because not even the
> best shareware modeler for POV-Ray has it--I am writing a triangle mesh
> modeler for POV-Ray.
> 
> In QuickBasic.
> 
> It's about 90% done (I just need to rotate the views, add the ability
> to read and write PCM files, and it'll be done).
> 
> Regards,
> John
> --
> ICQ: 46085459

You're right, it's crazy.  But good on you for doing it 8=)

PoD.


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: It's crazy, but I'm doing it...
Date: 11 Jan 2000 11:08:34
Message: <387B5742.6A94EF40@erols.com>
Ken wrote:
> 
> John VanSickle wrote:
> 
> > I suppose I will post the .BAS file somewhere...
> 
> Which version of QuickBasic are you using ?
> 
>   I only have QBasic 0.5 on my system at this time which does not
> support the many or the advanced features of some of the newer
> versions of QuickBasic <whine>.

I'm using QuickBasic 1.1 (released in 1992).  As far as I know, even
if you're using GW-Basic you'll be in good shape.

Regards,
John
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ICQ: 46085459


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: It's crazy, but I'm doing it...
Date: 11 Jan 2000 11:12:55
Message: <387B5847.A94D5720@erols.com>
Nieminen Juha wrote:
> 
>   Don't you know that Real Programmers Don't Use Basic? :)

Real programmers, when confronted with nothing but Basic, use that to
write a hex editor, use that editor to write a better hex editor, and
do the rest of their work with that better hex editor.  Real programmers
can compile stuff in their heads.

Regards,
John
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ICQ: 46085459


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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: It's crazy, but I'm doing it...
Date: 11 Jan 2000 11:25:04
Message: <chrishuff_99-02D51F.11252111012000@news.povray.org>
In article <387B5847.A94D5720@erols.com>, John VanSickle 
<van### [at] erolscom> wrote:

> Nieminen Juha wrote:
> > 
> >   Don't you know that Real Programmers Don't Use Basic? :)
> 
> Real programmers, when confronted with nothing but Basic, use that to
> write a hex editor, use that editor to write a better hex editor, and
> do the rest of their work with that better hex editor.  Real programmers
> can compile stuff in their heads.

Real programmers write the machine code directly to a disk with a tiny 
magnet on the end of a pin.

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Chris Huff
e-mail: chr### [at] yahoocom
Web page: http://chrishuff.dhs.org/


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From: Nieminen Juha
Subject: Re: It's crazy, but I'm doing it...
Date: 11 Jan 2000 11:41:59
Message: <387b5d57@news.povray.org>
John VanSickle <van### [at] erolscom> wrote:
: Real programmers, when confronted with nothing but Basic, use that to
: write a hex editor

  Why, when there's this wonderful little utility called 'debug'?

-- 
main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: It's crazy, but I'm doing it...
Date: 11 Jan 2000 12:51:45
Message: <387B6F72.5386D9EB@erols.com>
Nieminen Juha wrote:
> 
> John VanSickle <van### [at] erolscom> wrote:
> : Real programmers, when confronted with nothing but Basic, use that
> : to write a hex editor
> 
>   Why, when there's this wonderful little utility called 'debug'?

Well, if that's the case, then they're no long confronted with nothing
but Basic, ne c'est pas?

(As I recall, I used debug to write a couple .COM programs...)

Regards,
John
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ICQ: 46085459


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: It's crazy, but I'm doing it...
Date: 11 Jan 2000 12:59:57
Message: <387B313E.86808844@bahnhof.se>
Remco de Korte wrote:
> 
> >
> > In QuickBasic.
> >
> 
> You are very brave, sir.
> 
> Remco
Breaveness has not much to do with it.... I'm afraid he is very sick and
the men in the long white coats will come and take him away first. Lets
just hope he can post the .BAS first *grin*


Well, Goodieluckie

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    Black wind come carry me far away
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