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From: TonyB
Subject: Re: AVI compression; which?
Date: 21 Nov 1999 15:02:05
Message: <38384fbd@news.povray.org>
I would go with H.263 for my personal use (but I normally just use
uncompressed AVI and then MPG them). I suggest you go with the latest Indeo.


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: AVI compression; which?
Date: 21 Nov 1999 15:53:55
Message: <hls4OBDOmxDLlNCr+fiRnCFdIbHd@4ax.com>
On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:14:15 +0100, "Sander" <san### [at] the-internet>
wrote:

>My video editor has the following compression methods for AVI's; which is
>generally useful in the p.b.a.-group? I am not sure that the one I used in
>my first post is commonly used (MP4 V2):
>
>- Cinepak Codec by Radius
>- Intel Indeo Video 4.3
>- Intel Indeo Video R3.2
>- Microsoft Video 1
>- Microsoft RLE
>- Microsoft H.263 Video Codec
>- Indeo Video 5.04
>- Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V1
>- Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V2
>
>Your comments will be appreciated,
>Sander

Of what you have installed, I'd use Indeo 5.04 (Codec ID "IV50") at
setings Quality:9000 and bytes/sec 32768 or 65536


Peter Popov
ICQ: 15002700


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From: omniVERSE
Subject: Re: AVI compression; which?
Date: 21 Nov 1999 21:23:15
Message: <3838a913@news.povray.org>
This is odd because I don't have either of those two Mpeg-4 codecs showing
here and yet something did download to play that file at p.b.a.  Wonder why
I can't list it here?  I've restarted computer since then.  Well, I know
it's there anyhow.
I checked all my Avi codecs against each other once for quality and
filesize, unfortunately I didn't take note of the results, think it was
Indeo 5.* which came up best of what I had at the time (it's v. 5.06 now),
so like Peter says that might be good and others should typically have it
too.  Thing is, I don't know if a version change alone messes up backward
compatibility or not.  I also have the Indeo interactive codec which I never
use because it seems others don't usually have that at all.
It's not going to be a sure thing anyhow.

Bob

Sander <san### [at] the-internet> wrote in message
news:3837fe37@news.povray.org...
> My video editor has the following compression methods for AVI's; which is
> generally useful in the p.b.a.-group? I am not sure that the one I used in
> my first post is commonly used (MP4 V2):
>
> - Cinepak Codec by Radius
> - Intel Indeo Video 4.3
> - Intel Indeo Video R3.2
> - Microsoft Video 1
> - Microsoft RLE
> - Microsoft H.263 Video Codec
> - Indeo Video 5.04
> - Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V1
> - Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V2
>
> Your comments will be appreciated,
> Sander
> --
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> http://www.amtechnical.com/jeff/rose.html
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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: AVI compression; which?
Date: 22 Nov 1999 08:46:49
Message: <3839489A.F450F237@my-dejanews.com>
Answer : none

MPG!


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: AVI compression; which?
Date: 22 Nov 1999 08:50:31
Message: <383949D6.BC4E718B@pacbell.net>
"Greg M. Johnson" wrote:
> 
> Answer : none
> 
> MPG!

That is kind of a moot point. The codecs can be used in either animation
file format.

-- 
Ken Tyler -  1200+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Sander
Subject: Re: AVI compression; which?
Date: 22 Nov 1999 16:38:24
Message: <3839b7d0@news.povray.org>
And how do you MPG them? I am such a layman..
Sander
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TonyB <ben### [at] panamaphoenixnet> schreef in berichtnieuws
38384fbd@news.povray.org...
> I would go with H.263 for my personal use (but I normally just use
> uncompressed AVI and then MPG them). I suggest you go with the latest
Indeo.
>
>


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: AVI compression; which?
Date: 22 Nov 1999 17:06:55
Message: <3839BE13.997C05EC@pacbell.net>
Sander wrote:
> 
> And how do you MPG them? I am such a layman..
> Sander

I think what Tony was implying is that you create an AVI then convert
that to an Mpeg movie. I don't know what if any advantage there is in
a two step process but he may be able to enlighten us on that subject.

Look around here http://www.povray.org/links/3D_Animation_Utilities/
for tools to convert from avi2mpg or to make mpeg files directly from
you images.

-- 
Ken Tyler -  1200+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: PoD
Subject: Re: AVI compression; which?
Date: 22 Nov 1999 17:50:23
Message: <3839C8FC.521E3B0A@merlin.net.au>
Ken wrote:
> 
> "Greg M. Johnson" wrote:
> >
> > Answer : none
> >
> > MPG!
> 
> That is kind of a moot point. The codecs can be used in either animation
> file format.
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler -  1200+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/

But if you're making an MPEG animation why wrap it up in an AVI?

Cheers, PoD.


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From: Philippe Debar
Subject: Re: AVI compression; which?
Date: 23 Nov 1999 02:54:16
Message: <383a4828@news.povray.org>
I use
> - Indeo Video 5.04
which I find gives the best results.
I don't know a thing about its availability/popularity.



Philippe


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From: Matt Giwer
Subject: Re: AVI compression; which?
Date: 12 Dec 1999 11:29:27
Message: <3853F7A3.EA3DAE4E@ij.net>
Sander wrote:

> And how do you MPG them? I am such a layman..

    It really depends what you are starting with. Go direct to MPEG
skipping AVI wherever possible.

    AVI and MPEG do compression routines but not the same ones. Quality
takes a hit.


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