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Btw, I don't see vacuum tube computers as much of a joke really for example.
And no I don't mean it like that either! <snicker>
I like old stuff and tend to collect antiques more than contemporary
techno-hardware. I'd love to have an old Univac.
http://www.usouthal.edu/usa/cis/faculty/daigle/project1/51univac.htm
Bob
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Karl Pelzer wrote:
> Finally I gave the program to the PD-Bibliotheque of the ABBUC (Atari
ahem.. I meant PD-library (again one of the "false
friends" my teachers warned me for)
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On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:18:36 -0600, "omniVERSE" <inv### [at] aol com>
wrote:
>I'd love to have an old Univac.
Where would you put it, Bob? That thing was relatively enormous and if
you managed to make keep it operational it would require a good
air-conditioning system to keep it cool. Wouldn't it be fun to pit the
Univac against a good handheld calculator? :)
--
Alan - ako### [at] povrayorg - a k o n g <at> p o v r a y <dot> o r g
http://www.povray.org - Home of the Persistence of Vision Ray Tracer
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>
> >I'd love to have an old Univac.
I personally would like to have a PDP-11. It just might
fit in my garage.
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I hadn't even thought of the large size. My brother has a house with a
basement you could probably fit it into, way across the US from here. Which
made me think, the shipping cost would also be prohibitive for me. Bet UPS
or FedEx would want a few thousand dollars to move it.
OK, so any smaller, lighter, early computers? Sorry, this would go very
much OT here and I really don't need to know.
Bob
"Steve Martin" <sma### [at] usitnet> wrote in message
news:385708FA.D4F2F729@usit.net...
> >
> > >I'd love to have an old Univac.
>
> I personally would like to have a PDP-11. It just might
> fit in my garage.
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OK, I was just wondering where the taste for battering a keyboard came
from...
And it's true: when I look around to see how some friends and family members
my age perform, I find very little that is interesting. Of the 15, 7of them
own a PC, 3 do have a reasonable recent model, none has ever done any
programming, and 1 is very happy with my first 8MHz 286AT, now 10 years
old.... Most use it as a typewriter. None have any basic skills (DOS,
Windows, etc.) Only 2 have an internet connection, and no one uses it
regularly. In vain I tried to explain to them why POV-Ray, for one thing,
fascinates me!
When my son was about 11 years old, I could still tell him about things like
Fortran, Pascal, and assembler. Somewhat later, suddenly he started to move
very quickly : he is now, at 28, a programmer by profession and I am way too
dumb to understand how he does it all! I suppose he looks upon me as you do
upon your parents (in this respect). BTW: POV-Ray doesn't interest him one
bit: he thinks I'm mad.
--
Regards,
Sander
omniVERSE <inv### [at] aolcom> schreef in berichtnieuws
38564b8c@news.povray.org...
> Oh, no, never. You are a true POVer, guess I could say anyhow.
> I was getting a mental image of my parents pecking at the keyboard trying
> desparately to render just a basic example scene file or do a sphere {0,1
> pigment {color red 1}} (they would no doubt never get the camera or a
light
> in there to see a self-made scene).
> They just happen to be born around mid-1930's is all.
> To be fair though my mother manages to do plenty enough on a computer
(after
> a couple years of my teaching her), just nothing like POV-Ray ever done.
My
> father... well, he can just get by running a Poker card game himself and
get
> signed onto AOL and lose himself on the internet once there.
> So, yes, there's something quite laughable going on at my parents place
when
> it comes to the PC :-D
>
> Bob
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Another testament about POV-Ray users being a culture rather than ordinary
citizens, the way I see it.
Bob
"Sander" <san### [at] stolscom> wrote in message
news:385901f5@news.povray.org...
> OK, I was just wondering where the taste for battering a keyboard came
> from...
>
> And it's true: when I look around to see how some friends and family
members
> my age perform, I find very little that is interesting. Of the 15, 7of
them
> own a PC, 3 do have a reasonable recent model, none has ever done any
> programming, and 1 is very happy with my first 8MHz 286AT, now 10 years
> old.... Most use it as a typewriter. None have any basic skills (DOS,
> Windows, etc.) Only 2 have an internet connection, and no one uses it
> regularly. In vain I tried to explain to them why POV-Ray, for one thing,
> fascinates me!
>
> When my son was about 11 years old, I could still tell him about things
like
> Fortran, Pascal, and assembler. Somewhat later, suddenly he started to
move
> very quickly : he is now, at 28, a programmer by profession and I am way
too
> dumb to understand how he does it all! I suppose he looks upon me as you
do
> upon your parents (in this respect). BTW: POV-Ray doesn't interest him one
> bit: he thinks I'm mad.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Sander
>
>
> omniVERSE <inv### [at] aolcom> schreef in berichtnieuws
> 38564b8c@news.povray.org...
> > Oh, no, never. You are a true POVer, guess I could say anyhow.
> > I was getting a mental image of my parents pecking at the keyboard
trying
> > desparately to render just a basic example scene file or do a sphere
{0,1
> > pigment {color red 1}} (they would no doubt never get the camera or a
> light
> > in there to see a self-made scene).
> > They just happen to be born around mid-1930's is all.
> > To be fair though my mother manages to do plenty enough on a computer
> (after
> > a couple years of my teaching her), just nothing like POV-Ray ever done.
> My
> > father... well, he can just get by running a Poker card game himself and
> get
> > signed onto AOL and lose himself on the internet once there.
> > So, yes, there's something quite laughable going on at my parents place
> when
> > it comes to the PC :-D
> >
> > Bob
>
>
>
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Sander wrote:
>
> BTW: POV-Ray doesn't interest him one
> bit: he thinks I'm mad.
>
He's right of course, but at least you're not alon in your madness :))
Jerome
--
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* they'll tell you what can't * mailto:ber### [at] inamecom
* be done and why... * http://www.enst.fr/~jberger
* Then do it. *
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Hi Mr Art. Now that you 've had about a thousand replies ( I may overdo it
) , how about compiling your list and put it to show either on this NG or
anywhere else. Maybe you already have.
I have always been stunned by the number and variety of people POVRAY could
gather.
Thanks
Fabien
> I have seen the long post in I'm Old... and getting to the bottom of it
> to find the new message... well I'm getting older just finding the new
> entries. So, here is "The Table of The Ages". I hope I have got
> everything right
> this time. The last time I tried this, I got some dates swapped and
> a few names misspelled. All of the information in this table has been
> posted in the POVRay news groups ever since 9/5/99. This is the list
> that I use to see who is where and when to send congrats and so forth.
>
> 11/15/84 Ian Burgmyer
> 06/26/84 Andrea Ryan (Brendan) USA, Kingsbury, New York
> 03/26/83 Wojtek Bauman
> 03/11/83 Lance Birch Australia
> 07/25/82 Chris Huff USA, Union, Michigan
> 02/05/82 TonyB ( Anthony L. Bennett) Panama
> 12/19/81 Zeger Knaepen
> 06/11/81 Kevin Wampler
> 03/11/80 Mark Wagner
> 03/05/80 Peter Popov Bulgaria
> 10/29/78 Margus Ramst Estonia
> 10/15/77 Thorsten Froelich Duisburg, Germany
> 05/07/77 Nick Portelli
> 09/23/75 Jerome Berger France, Levallois-Perret
> 05/22/75 Fabien Mosen
> 12/17/74 Darcy Johnston
> 09/22/74 Saadat Saeed
> 09/16/71 Ron Parker Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA
> 03/21/71 Marc Schimmler Stuttgart, Germany
> 03/31/70 Uwe Zimmermann Bremerhaven, Germany
> 11/11/69 Phil Clute
> 06/27/68 Sven-Erik Andersen
> 10/28/67 Ricardo M. Pereyra
> 04/02/67 Charles USA, Eastern PA
> 12/14/66 Jon A. Cruz USA, Southern California
> 10/27/66 John M. Dlugosz
> 09/02/65 Cliff Bowman Watford, SE England
> 09/15/64 Lutz Kretzschmar Munich, Germany
> 07/16/63 PoD
> 01/30/63 ingo
> 04/23/61 David Heys USA, Anchorage, Alaska
> 07/14/60 Robert Chaffe
> 01/11/60 Bruce (Lamming)
> 11/10/58 Mr. Art (Arthur Flint) USA, Anchorage, Alaska
> 10/31/58 Bob Hughes (omniVERSE) USA, Decatur, Alabama
> 04/19/58 Ken Tyler USA, Tustin, Califonia
> 11/16/55 Bill DeWitt USA, Florida
> 11/11/46 Ken Matassa USA, Santa Ana Heights, California
> 01/05/33 David Wilkinson Scotland, Hamilton
> 07/28/31 Sander (Alexander Stols)
> Gail Shaw South Africa
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Dear Folks,
Here's my info for the listing:
Brendan Hurley May 30th, 1948 Ukiah, California, USA
--
Michael Brendan Hurley
http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/network/4969/
http://www.saber.net/~mbhcgc/
mbh### [at] sabernet
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