On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:44:38 +0200, Johannes Hubert wrote:
>That's not really the case (in the US):
>Source needs a specific copyright statement (with year) to make it
>copyrighted. If you publish your source without such a statement, it will
>fall into the public domain.

That's not true.  Hasn't been true for years.  See
http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

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> drawing should look, what materials should be used etc. Which doesn't mean
> you're free to copy it everywhere. I believe you have to buy a license and
then
> maybe even the master will supervise the drawing (if he's still alive).
>
> I'm not very good at copyrights and such but I believe you're talking
about
> intellectual ownership here (or whatever you would call it).
>
> Remco

Yes, that's correct, the source is still copyright and you are entitled to
all ownership because you created it.

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Ron Parker <par### [at] fwicom> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:44:38 +0200, Johannes Hubert wrote:
> >That's not really the case (in the US):
> >Source needs a specific copyright statement (with year) to make it
> >copyrighted. If you publish your source without such a statement, it will
> >fall into the public domain.
>
> That's not true.  Hasn't been true for years.  See
> http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

Looks like my knowledge has been outdated for about 10 years :-)

Johannes.

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Better yet, if you don't sue them and at least get some sort of credit,
people will think he's the actual artist and unless they found the image on
IRTC before the book was published, they'll think you copied off of him.

Stupid, stupid world!

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Johannes Hubert <jhu### [at] algonetse> wrote in message
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> Since the US is usually regarded as litigation heaven, I would say: Sue
> them! You can finally make some money with your hobby!
>
> Now, jokes aside, I actually mean that quite seriously, because of the
> following reason:
>
> They should not get away with it. If you don't sue them, they'll do it
> again. If it is a large publisher, you'll probably get some nice punitive
> damages too.
>
>
> Greetings,
> Johannes (who isn't an attourney)
>
>
>
>

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Mark Wagner <mar### [at] gtenet> wrote in message
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> After reading this thread, I checked my Computer Science textbook, and it
> appears that POV-Ray is a very popular program for generating artwork for
> these books.  However, the cover artwork in question in this case was
> created by the author of the book, and no copyright violations are
involved.

Hey, interesting!  My last year's math book has a cover image made in POV
(it credited POV-Ray and Moray in the credit page on the front!  No joke!)

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Hmm, could there be a market for POV-Ray collectibles?  I like to collect
things and books are one of the things.  I had thought about ordering that
Prentice Hall textbook because it might become a conversation piece in the
future at the very least.
  Also wanted to find a couple other early things like the Walnut Creek CD
and whatever books relating to POV.

Bob

Ian Burgmyer <the### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
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> Mark Wagner <mar### [at] gtenet> wrote in message
> news:37f05073@news.povray.org...
> > After reading this thread, I checked my Computer Science textbook, and
it
> > appears that POV-Ray is a very popular program for generating artwork
for
> > these books.  However, the cover artwork in question in this case was
> > created by the author of the book, and no copyright violations are
> involved.
>
> Hey, interesting!  My last year's math book has a cover image made in POV
> (it credited POV-Ray and Moray in the credit page on the front!  No joke!)
>
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Btw Ian, do you remember the name of that book?  Just curious, for now.

Bob

Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
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> Hmm, could there be a market for POV-Ray collectibles?  I like to collect
> things and books are one of the things.  I had thought about ordering that
> Prentice Hall textbook because it might become a conversation piece in the
> future at the very least.
>   Also wanted to find a couple other early things like the Walnut Creek CD
> and whatever books relating to POV.
>
> Bob
>
> Ian Burgmyer <the### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
> news:37f3005d@news.povray.org...
> > Mark Wagner <mar### [at] gtenet> wrote in message
> > news:37f05073@news.povray.org...
> > > After reading this thread, I checked my Computer Science textbook, and
> it
> > > appears that POV-Ray is a very popular program for generating artwork
> for
> > > these books.  However, the cover artwork in question in this case was
> > > created by the author of the book, and no copyright violations are
> > involved.
> >
> > Hey, interesting!  My last year's math book has a cover image made in
POV
> > (it credited POV-Ray and Moray in the credit page on the front!  No
joke!)
> >
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> >
> >
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On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 03:55:14 -0500, Bob Hughes wrote:
>  Also wanted to find a couple other early things like the Walnut Creek CD
>and whatever books relating to POV.

How much would you pay for a gently used copy of Ray Tracing Creations? :)
Not that I'd sell mine, of course...

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Nope, sorry :(

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Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
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> Btw Ian, do you remember the name of that book?  Just curious, for now.
>
> Bob
>
> Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
> news:37f32524@news.povray.org...
> > Hmm, could there be a market for POV-Ray collectibles?  I like to
collect
> > things and books are one of the things.  I had thought about ordering
that
> > Prentice Hall textbook because it might become a conversation piece in
the
> > future at the very least.
> >   Also wanted to find a couple other early things like the Walnut Creek
CD
> > and whatever books relating to POV.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Ian Burgmyer <the### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
> > news:37f3005d@news.povray.org...
> > > Mark Wagner <mar### [at] gtenet> wrote in message
> > > news:37f05073@news.povray.org...
> > > > After reading this thread, I checked my Computer Science textbook,
and
> > it
> > > > appears that POV-Ray is a very popular program for generating
artwork
> > for
> > > > these books.  However, the cover artwork in question in this case
was
> > > > created by the author of the book, and no copyright violations are
> > > involved.
> > >
> > > Hey, interesting!  My last year's math book has a cover image made in
> POV
> > > (it credited POV-Ray and Moray in the credit page on the front!  No
> joke!)
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Question to the newsadmin. . .

Would I be able to put this on my web site?  Or would it be copyright
infringement?

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Gautam N. Lad <vnl### [at] mynacom> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I bought a text-book for one of my college courses, and lo-and-behold, one
> of my renderings (Grade One), was in the book.  I was so surprised and
> happy,
> considering it was the only non-winning image among other IRTC
> winners/runner ups.
>
> The book is called: Computers:
> Tools for an Information Age 6th Edition by H.L. Capron
> ISBN: 0-201-61211-9
> http://www.prenhall.com/capron
>
> Problem is, I was never told that my image would be appearing in the book.
> Is this somehow breaking one of the IRTC rules or violating my copyrights?
> All the files
> included for the submission included a statement from  me regarding
> permission of image/file, usage.
> I have written on my homepage's gallery and in the IRTC files (.POV, .TXT,
> etc.) that if
> you wish to use the image, you must first contact me to get my permission.
>
> Some of the images included in the book are (from the IRTC):
>
> - Roger, Gary and Bob by Jeane-Marie Haerens and Fabien Mosen
> - Untitled (image of Ice Cream Cone) by Nathan O'Brien (
> - Gomusic by Gena Obukhov (not sure if this is from IRTC)
> - Toco Toucan by Ian and Ethel MacKay
> - Pocketwatch by Kevin Odhner
> - Untitled (bucket of Sea Shells) by Steve Gowers (Summer theme)
> - Untitled (ship image) by Nathan O'Brien (Elements theme)
> - Grade One by Gautam Lad
> - Untitled (plane image) by Ian Armstrong (Flight theme)
> - Admiral Watch by Adrian Baumann
> - Ode to Prianesi by Nathan O'Brien
>
> My question to these artists: Did you receive any notice from the
> publisher/author? If not,
> do you think they violated your copyrights by using the image without your
> permission?
>
> Also, I don't plan on taking any legal action or anything; it's just that
> I'd like to know (in advance)
> where my work is being used.
>
>
> Thanks!
> Bye!
>
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>
>
>

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