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From: Mick Hazelgrove
Subject: Re: Announce: Search Engine Online
Date: 29 Sep 1999 14:14:38
Message: <37f2570e@news.povray.org>
Here here!!


Mick

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> S    T   A   N    D    I   N   G       O   V   A   T   I   O   N   !!!!!
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> Paul B
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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Announce: Search Engine Online
Date: 30 Sep 1999 06:29:10
Message: <37F33B0A.754B711D@pacbell.net>
Greetings again,

  For those who may have missed it, I sure did, there is also a new
search engine for the povray home page. You will find a link to it in
the menu on the main page. This search engine works only for content
on povray.org and not for the links page. To search for information
in the links database you must first go to the links page and use that
search engine separately.

  For a nice list of hard to find info on the site try for your first
search word "POV-Ray". It returned more info than I knew existed there
and I have explored it rather extensively in the past couple of years.

Cheers,

-- 
Ken Tyler
1100+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html


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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Announce: Search Engine Online
Date: 30 Sep 1999 11:39:45
Message: <37f38441@news.povray.org>
Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> schreef in berichtnieuws
37F33B0A.754B711D@pacbell.net...
>
>
> Greetings again,
>
>   For those who may have missed it, I sure did, there is also a new
> search engine for the povray home page. ......

Ahh, nice, nice, nice.

Just a question, would a search engine to these newsgroups be a possibility?

Ingo


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Announce: Search Engine Online
Date: 30 Sep 1999 12:00:47
Message: <37F388C1.B101F57F@pacbell.net>
ingo wrote:
> 
> Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> schreef in berichtnieuws
> 37F33B0A.754B711D@pacbell.net...
> >
> >
> > Greetings again,
> >
> >   For those who may have missed it, I sure did, there is also a new
> > search engine for the povray home page. ......
> 
> Ahh, nice, nice, nice.
> 
> Just a question, would a search engine to these newsgroups be a possibility?
> 
> Ingo

  I imagine most anything is possible. When I need to search the groups
I use the capabilities built into Netscape for this purpose. Does a great
job of it too.

 I know that a lot what Chris is doing is through CGI scripts and he lost
the scripts for the news groups a while back. I would think that once he
gets that back online it would be a much easier task for him to set up
for. Anyway I will ask but I can gaurantee nothing at this time.

-- 
Ken Tyler
1100+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html


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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Announce: Search Engine Online
Date: 30 Sep 1999 12:17:17
Message: <37f38d0d@news.povray.org>
Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> schreef in berichtnieuws
37F388C1.B101F57F@pacbell.net...
> > Just a question, would a search engine to these newsgroups be a
possibility?
> >
> > Ingo
>
>   I imagine most anything is possible. When I need to search the groups
> I use the capabilities built into Netscape for this purpose. Does a great
> job of it too.
>

Does this mean that netscape can search in the content of the news, not only
the headers? When setting up the cablemodem the @home person installed
netscape, but I never used it.


Ingo


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Announce: Search Engine Online
Date: 30 Sep 1999 12:24:15
Message: <37F38E42.975A1F38@pacbell.net>
ingo wrote:

> Does this mean that netscape can search in the content of the news, not only
> the headers? When setting up the cablemodem the @home person installed
> netscape, but I never used it.
> 
> Ingo

It does headers only. You want full message body search capabilites and
that is something that I will have to look into for you. You could do
like Peter Popov and store the entire contents of the server localy :)

-- 
Ken Tyler
1100+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html


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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Announce: Search Engine Online
Date: 30 Sep 1999 13:00:41
Message: <37f39739@news.povray.org>
Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> schreef in berichtnieuws
37F38E42.975A1F38@pacbell.net...
>.....You could do like Peter Popov and store
> the entire contents of the server localy :)
>
Actually I've been thinking of doing that. But a few things kept me from doing
so:
Disk space.
What does it mean for the newsserver when somebody starts downloading every
thing on it for a few hours.
How to covert the OE5 files to something readable and maintain the structure
of the threads.
A good local search engine. I tried AltaVista Discovery, but had some troubles
with it.
An OT-filter :)

Ingo


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Announce: Search Engine Online
Date: 30 Sep 1999 19:00:17
Message: <CujzN2VQzxES4cdFGxRjnvUj+rjj@4ax.com>
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:00:40 +0200, "ingo" <ing### [at] homenl> wrote:

>>.....You could do like Peter Popov and store
>> the entire contents of the server localy :)
Helps a lot, believe me!

>Actually I've been thinking of doing that. But a few things kept me from doing
>so:

>Disk space.
394 MB in 4711 file as of now (I am saving the attachments as separate
files so that I can browse through them more quickly)

>What does it mean for the newsserver when somebody starts downloading every
>thing on it for a few hours.
You have to download them anyway. It's just that I set my newsreader
to keep all messages (even canceled ones, if I was fast enough to get
a copy).

>How to covert the OE5 files to something readable and maintain the structure
>of the threads.
There is a converter for OE to Agent. AFAIR Spider sent me an url
which might mean several things
a) that I can find the URL in my ICQ message archive
b) that the thing runs under Linux, maybe GPL, hence s.o. may be able
to make a conversion utility to, say, MySQL.

>A good local search engine. I tried AltaVista Discovery, but had some troubles
>with it.
I find my newsreader's search abilities sufficient. I can even find
what post a specific file belongs to (by file name) :)

>An OT-filter :)
Just set your newsreader to kill all threads where I have posted a
reply :)

>Ingo

Regards,
Peter Popov
ICQ: 15002700


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From: Alan Kong
Subject: Re: Announce: Search Engine Online
Date: 30 Sep 1999 22:44:07
Message: <BB=0N7qq8Bvj=HYtObojNJsdGdAv@4ax.com>
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:22:26 -0700, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:

>It does headers only. You want full message body search capabilites and
>that is something that I will have to look into for you. You could do
>like Peter Popov and store the entire contents of the server localy :)


providing that they reside on your hard drive. Search qualifiers are current
group, all subscribed groups, all folders, first instance, all instances,
view list of all, etc. That would work out well for you, Ken, as I seem to
recall that you said you had ALL of the messages on this server :)

-- 
Alan
http://www.povray.org - Home of the Persistence of Vision Ray Tracer


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Announce: Search Engine Online
Date: 30 Sep 1999 23:07:06
Message: <37F424EB.8386B695@pacbell.net>
Alan Kong wrote:


> providing that they reside on your hard drive. Search qualifiers are current
> group, all subscribed groups, all folders, first instance, all instances,
> view list of all, etc. That would work out well for you, Ken, as I seem to
> recall that you said you had ALL of the messages on this server :)

I have all of the message headers on this server meaning I do not expire
messages but the message bodies are not retained locally. Peter is the
only person I know of who is archiving all or the messages here.

-- 
Ken Tyler
1100+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html


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