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From: Margus Ramst
Subject: Re: PoV World Map update
Date: 27 Jun 1999 19:15:46
Message: <3776B0CC.847412D8@peak.edu.ee>
No biggie. Besides, I believe there are a few tiny islands around there. So you
needn't bother about it.

Margus

Bob wrote:
> 
> I can always try (to get you out of those icey winter waters), however it's a hit
and
> miss problem. If I add or subtract to that Earth image, for the spherical
'image_map',
> it tends to throw other places off. I wish I knew what accuracy it was meant to
have,
> obviously not the choice for cartographers. As I've said, the math of the POV-Ray
> coordinates really shouldn't be off, at least by any observable amount I should
think.
>


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: PoV World Map update
Date: 28 Jun 1999 02:48:13
Message: <37791a11.3675764@204.213.191.228>
On Sun, 27 Jun 1999 16:38:22 -0500, Bob <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote:

>I can always try (to get you out of those icey winter waters), however it's a hit and
>miss problem. If I add or subtract to that Earth image, for the spherical
'image_map',
>it tends to throw other places off. I wish I knew what accuracy it was meant to have,
>obviously not the choice for cartographers. As I've said, the math of the POV-Ray
>coordinates really shouldn't be off, at least by any observable amount I should
think.

Have you considered that Earth is actually not a perfect sphere but is
a little squished along the axis of rotation? It's shaped as a geoide
(sp?) which makes perfect sense as this word means "looking like
Earth" :)


Peter Popov
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From: Matthew Bennett
Subject: Re: PoV World Map update
Date: 28 Jun 1999 11:58:52
Message: <37779bbc@news.povray.org>
Cliff Bowman <who### [at] spamcitycom> wrote in message
news:37766ca4.7134056@news.povray.org...
> On Sun, 27 Jun 1999 01:03:25 -0500, Bob <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>
> [snip]
> > Anyhow, all else appears to be aligning fairly well,
> >but England? It's like a terrible earthquake has shifted it toward the
continent. I
> >haven't a good fix for this yet, I hate to think the coordinate numbers
need a
> >subtraction by more than a degree and even worse the prospect of cut &
pasting Great
> >Britain. Not a thing I like to do, playing god.
>
>
> If you do have to resort to moving the UK - could you move us somewhat
> south? I know the weather's pretty good here at the moment, but we
> could do with a warmer average <g>

Yeah, and airbrush out any clouds.
In fact, you could airbrush out Milton Keynes while you're at it :P

/\/\/\//


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From: Martin Crisp
Subject: Re: PoV World Map update
Date: 29 Jun 1999 20:54:32
Message: <37796ac8@news.povray.org>
>Uh, say Mark, I think you are letting on about how you like the
Southern Hemisphere
>here; so much so that you sent in a latitude of 142 degrees and 40
minutes. That would
>have put you back up north to -38 degrees instead of this 42 however ;)

Doh, thanks Barry, erm Bob. (Sorry, but a typo is better than Mark vs
Martin :-))

Maybe this is why I keep getting angles of rotation fouled up...

>I took the liberty of removing the 1 already, so you are set up to be
rendered as should
>be. Much later today (6/26) that is.

Thanks for correcting my abject stupidity.

Have Fun
Martin
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From: Martin Crisp
Subject: Re: PoV World Map update
Date: 29 Jun 1999 21:46:06
Message: <377976de@news.povray.org>
Bob wrote in message <3774772F.78A9F9FC@aol.com>...
>Uh, say Mark, I think you are letting on about how you like the
Southern Hemisphere
>here; so much so that you sent in a latitude of 142 degrees and 40
minutes. That would

>Martin Crisp wrote:
>>
>> Anyone further south than me?
>>
>> 42deg 40min S, 147deg 20min E

Umm, is that me sitting off the West coast of Tasmania? (Should be in
the SE corner - point would be centred slightly more than 1 marker
diameter further south, and slightly right of the marker that's in
Melbourne...)

What did I submit for longditude (given I submitted a different latitude
to what I typed above...)?

Just had a look at a higher resolution map...1:25,000 (rather than the
Readers Digest World Map) :-)
42deg 50min (about 30sec) S
147deg 17min (about 5sec) E

Or am I now being picky? (Don't get me wrong, looks great!)

Have Fun
Martin
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From: Scott Hill
Subject: Re: PoV World Map update
Date: 20 Jul 1999 08:52:46
Message: <3794711e@news.povray.org>
Bob <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message news:3772E7C3.74469EE9@aol.com...
> http://members.aol.com/wrld0rigin/povwrldjpg.htm
>

    I think you ought to check on the alignment of the image map you're
using.

    At first I thought I'd been missed, checked you list, and sure enough,
I'm on there.
    But where ? Let me tell you none of the spots on the UK are over
Cambridge (where I am).
    Then I noticed those two spots that seem to be floating in the sea.

    Could it be that you're image map is shifted a couple of degrees to the
east ? (or that the spots are shifted a couple of degrees west). That would
explain the spots off the west coasts of Wales & Ireland and correcting it
would put one of the spots roughly over Cambridge !

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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: PoV World Map update
Date: 21 Jul 1999 07:19:06
Message: <3795AC7A.BA019EA1@aol.com>
You will have email from me soon. But yes, I've noticed aligment
troubles from the beginning, it comes down to the image_map used mostly,
along with possible inaccuracies of lat/lon coordinate submissions. Some
are just city or town names, the East West or South North
positive/negative is most important when sent in. Luckily everyone
states their placename as well, usually.

 http://members.aol.com/wrld0rigin/uk.htm

Have a look at this latest one please, anyone who is there in the UK and
surrounding region (a few minutes from time of this message post).

Bob

Scott Hill wrote:
> 
> Bob <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message news:3772E7C3.74469EE9@aol.com...
> > http://members.aol.com/wrld0rigin/povwrldjpg.htm
> >
> 
>     I think you ought to check on the alignment of the image map you're
> using.
> 
>     At first I thought I'd been missed, checked you list, and sure enough,
> I'm on there.
>     But where ? Let me tell you none of the spots on the UK are over
> Cambridge (where I am).
>     Then I noticed those two spots that seem to be floating in the sea.
> 
>     Could it be that you're image map is shifted a couple of degrees to the
> east ? (or that the spots are shifted a couple of degrees west). That would
> explain the spots off the west coasts of Wales & Ireland and correcting it
> would put one of the spots roughly over Cambridge !
> 
> --
> Scott Hill : sco### [at] cyberlifecouk
> Software Engineer (and all round nice guy)
> Author of Pandora's Box : Watch this space.
> Work homepage : http://www.cyberlife.co.uk
> 
> "We will decide what the news is. The news is what we tell you it is." - The
> Fox TV network.

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From: Cliff Bowman
Subject: Re: PoV World Map update
Date: 22 Jul 1999 15:27:15
Message: <37977062.15920093@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:18:18 -0500, Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom>
wrote:
[snip]
> http://members.aol.com/wrld0rigin/uk.htm
>
>Have a look at this latest one please, anyone who is there in the UK and
>surrounding region (a few minutes from time of this message post).
>
Looking good - there's the anticipated cluster around London
(apparently not much actually IN London though - Odd).


Cheers,

Cliff Bowman
Why not pay my 3D Dr Who site a visit at http://www.who3d.cwc.net/
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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: PoV World Map update
Date: 22 Jul 1999 21:06:15
Message: <3797BFE0.51915FD4@aol.com>
There are two "in" London overlapping, one is without lat/lon so only
placed with the other London position. I think I might offset it
slightly now that the closeup shows it better.

> Looking good - there's the anticipated cluster around London
> (apparently not much actually IN London though - Odd).
> 

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From: Cliff Bowman
Subject: Re: PoV World Map update
Date: 23 Jul 1999 11:23:07
Message: <37987ffc.57470294@news.povray.org>
Therein lies one of the biggest problems with The Earth IMHO - it's
bigger than it often seems.

>There are two "in" London overlapping, one is without lat/lon so only
>placed with the other London position. I think I might offset it
>slightly now that the closeup shows it better.
>
>> Looking good - there's the anticipated cluster around London
>> (apparently not much actually IN London though - Odd).
>> 
>

Cheers,

Cliff Bowman
Why not pay my 3D Dr Who site a visit at http://www.who3d.cwc.net/
PS change ".duffcom" to ".net" if replying via e-mail


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