Lance Birch <lan### [at] usanet> wrote:

:      Linux: 9
:      SunOS: 4
:      FreeBSD: 1
:      Unix (or variant): 1

  I think that the last line should be better:

       Other Unix variant: 1

  Why? Because Linux, SunOS and FreeBSD are all unixes.

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Yeah, I know, I realised that after I sent it... (especially after a friend
on ICQ read through it and yelled at me ;-)

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Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
news:370C3FC5.D50AF577@aol.com...
> Also the very few females, though the ages of them appear to vary much.

    I was surprised at just how few female POV users there are, or,  rather,
how few female POV users that completed this survey there are.

    It is a well known phenomenon in computing that there are few females in
the field, but I thought the situation with POV would be different - I
wonder what proportion of more 'traditional' artists are female ?

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Scott Hill wrote:
> 
> Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
> news:370C3FC5.D50AF577@aol.com...
> > Also the very few females, though the ages of them appear to vary much.
> 
>     I was surprised at just how few female POV users there are, or,  rather,
> how few female POV users that completed this survey there are.
> 
>     It is a well known phenomenon in computing that there are few females in
> the field, but I thought the situation with POV would be different - I
> wonder what proportion of more 'traditional' artists are female ?
> 

If you look at the number of art-students the majority is female.

Remco

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There are also a lot in graphic design from my experiance.

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Remco de Korte wrote in message <373A07BB.69177AFA@xs4all.nl>...
>Scott Hill wrote:
>>
>> Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
>> news:370C3FC5.D50AF577@aol.com...
>> > Also the very few females, though the ages of them appear to vary much.
>>
>>     I was surprised at just how few female POV users there are, or,
rather,
>> how few female POV users that completed this survey there are.
>>
>>     It is a well known phenomenon in computing that there are few females
in
>> the field, but I thought the situation with POV would be different - I
>> wonder what proportion of more 'traditional' artists are female ?
>>
>
>If you look at the number of art-students the majority is female.
>
>Remco

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In colleges here, there's a majority of women in CG. I know a
few of them and I never seem to get their attention when I talk about
the groups that I read and all I learn here. They don't doubt it ;
they're just indifferent. We can spend hours drawing side by side but
they really aren't loners.
        Marshall McLuhan said that the media is the message : most
women just don't get that you can maintain a relationship with a group
of people you essentially don't know. And newsgroups are pretty much
just like that.


>There are also a lot in graphic design from my experiance.
>
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>Remco de Korte wrote in message <373A07BB.69177AFA@xs4all.nl>...
>>Scott Hill wrote:
>>>
>>> Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
>>> news:370C3FC5.D50AF577@aol.com...
>>> > Also the very few females, though the ages of them appear to
vary much.
>>>
>>>     I was surprised at just how few female POV users there are,
or,
>rather,
>>> how few female POV users that completed this survey there are.
>>>
>>>     It is a well known phenomenon in computing that there are few
females
>in
>>> the field, but I thought the situation with POV would be
different - I
>>> wonder what proportion of more 'traditional' artists are female ?
>>>
>>
>>If you look at the number of art-students the majority is female.
>>
>>Remco
>
>

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>        Marshall McLuhan said that the media is the message : most
>women just don't get that you can maintain a relationship with a group
>of people you essentially don't know. And newsgroups are pretty much
>just like that.


I haven't noticed many woman posting to thiese newsgroups,
maybe three or four. In my experience there are few women
involved in computers at all.

Gail
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There are tons of women using computers! :) They're all in the chat rooms
;)

  Well, okay, not all of them... <G>

  J/K girlies.

GrimDude
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Hmm, yeah... I think it's a shame really that the whole computer thing seems
to have some kind of stereotype of male users...

Nearly all the people I know however, be them male or female, use computers.
I think I only know a few people that don't really use them... then again, I
guess there is a difference between using a computer for graphix and using a
computer for games :-)

In all honesty however, I think that (and I'm going to make a generalisation
here, no need to attack me over this OK?) women seem to have greater
artistic ability than men (I'm sure a lot of people would agree with me on
that anyway), and seem to be able to express themselves better.  The
unfortunate thing about male computer users that are heavily into computers
is that a lot of the time when they go to make an image, they make it on
something Sci-Fi, like space stations and stuff (hey, not that I'm saying
there's anything wrong with space stations!!!  ;-)

I wish there were more women involved with computers, because I think that a
lot more artistic work would be created that way.

Just my 2 cents :-)

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Gail Shaw wrote in message <373ab3e3.0@news.povray.org>...
>>        Marshall McLuhan said that the media is the message : most
>>women just don't get that you can maintain a relationship with a group
>>of people you essentially don't know. And newsgroups are pretty much
>>just like that.
>
>
>I haven't noticed many woman posting to thiese newsgroups,
>maybe three or four. In my experience there are few women
>involved in computers at all.
>
>Gail
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>

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LOL

No their not!!!  Their just guys PRETENDING to be female!!!  ;-)

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GrimDude wrote in message <373b33a0.0@news.povray.org>...
>  There are tons of women using computers! :) They're all in the chat rooms
>;)
>
>  Well, okay, not all of them... <G>
>
>  J/K girlies.
>
>GrimDude
>vos### [at] arkansasnet
>
>
>

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