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From: povray org admin team
Subject: Re: htmlflame=off
Date: 30 Jan 1999 03:41:45
Message: <36b8c635.7127171@news.povray.org>
"Lance Birch" <zon### [at] satcomnetau> wrote:

>1)  You pay $50 a month for unlimited hours with a download limit of 150
>Mb...
>
>or
>
>2)  You pay $1/hour... gets expensive quick.

Or (in my case) you pay a flat rate of 19 cents/megabyte received, plus the
cost of the phone call. As you say, gets expensive quick ... (thanks, Tel$tra).


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: htmlflame=off
Date: 30 Jan 1999 06:16:41
Message: <36b2ea19.0@news.povray.org>
So you're connected through Telstra.net?  Eventually I'll save enough for
the setup fee :)

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From: David Burnett
Subject: Re: htmlflame=on
Date: 30 Jan 1999 08:58:28
Message: <36B206E8.E71A4E16@vargol.demon.co.uk>
Lue Ebra wrote:
> 
> I've watched the flamewars regarding html usage, and frankly, I think it's

> As for you Pay-Per-Byte ppl: get a real ISP, you're not even getting kissed.

Could you point me to free telecom too, some of us primitive backwards
countries
still have to pay for phone calls.

-- 
Dave, on his linux box...
The Borg Cable Co: The subscriber's wishes are irrelevant.


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From: povray org admin team
Subject: Re: htmlflame=off
Date: 30 Jan 1999 11:49:50
Message: <36b338aa.36428875@news.povray.org>
"Lance Birch" <zon### [at] satcomnetau> wrote:

>So you're connected through Telstra.net?  Eventually I'll save enough for
>the setup fee :)

yeah; I need a permanent link to manage all this stuff (and run the DNS, etc).


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: htmlflame=off
Date: 30 Jan 1999 21:01:07
Message: <36b3b963.0@news.povray.org>
Yeah, I know, we have one at work :)

Fixed IP comes in handy :)

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From: Nieminen Mika
Subject: Re: htmlflame=on
Date: 1 Feb 1999 04:39:59
Message: <36b5766f.0@news.povray.org>
Lue Ebra <lue### [at] nxuscom> wrote:
: My post was a rant mainly pointed at americans (who are for the most part
: spoon-fed, pompous, egotistical idiot.

  That was not nice. Insulting people by their nationality is very
discorteous and rude.

: This Ng's for the discussion of POV, not blasting some newbie because
: (s)he doesn't know how to change his(her) Windoze reader from one format to
: another.

  I don't think that "please stop sending html" is flaming.

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From: Margus Ramst
Subject: Re: htmlflame=on
Date: 1 Feb 1999 07:54:50
Message: <36B5A31E.3F935629@peak.edu.ee>
Nieminen Mika wrote:
> 
>   That was not nice. Insulting people by their nationality is very
> discorteous and rude.
> 

And what about insulting people on account of their OS?
(even if it's true) ;)

Margus


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From: Mr  B  Elliott
Subject: Re: htmlflame=on
Date: 1 Feb 1999 09:18:23
Message: <MPG.111f1e2c9276168a989681@news.povray.org>
In article <36b202ed.0@news.povray.org>, lue### [at] nxuscom says...
> 
> And to Graham: I have some chestnuts, wanna trade :)
> 
Too late.  I think he's already eaten the marshmallows...they were 
starting to melt off the stick!  Still, I reckon it's a good fire for a 
sing-song, I'll bring me guitar!

Just after I finish this next render...


-- 
"Strictly UNIX"    To dance is to live.
bel### [at] gilcomau


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From: Nieminen Mika
Subject: Re: htmlflame=on
Date: 1 Feb 1999 11:16:48
Message: <36b5d370.0@news.povray.org>
Margus Ramst <mar### [at] peakeduee> wrote:
: And what about insulting people on account of their OS?
: (even if it's true) ;)

  I wasn't insulting people who use windows. I use windows too.
  I was just insulting those ignorant windows users who think they know
everything but they know nothing.
  I'm sorry if I offended someone personally.

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From: Vahur Krouverk
Subject: Re: htmlflame=on
Date: 3 Feb 1999 11:24:38
Message: <36B87880.36366512@fv.aetec.ee>
Lue Ebra wrote:
> 
> I've watched the flamewars regarding html usage, and frankly, I think it's
> getting ridiculous.
> Now that I've vented that, I'm expecting another 3 dozen posts in flame..
> the REAL drag to html postings. Funny.. a 2K html post generates 50K of
> flame (kinda like the fliers in the Sunday paper).
> 
I decided to post my thoughts here as well, hopefully my HTML is turned
off;-) (It's should be 36th in this thread, good estimation, Lue!)
Some thoughts:
Perhaps there should be the readme.txt (or good_manners_to_follow, or
something like that) for first time visitors in this news server, which
explains, what should be done and what should not be done here:
don't use HTML, it pisses people off
don't post binaries to other than binaries group
etc.
There is something written about newsgroups and their use in the povray
homepage, but maybe it should be stated more specifically? E.g. there is
written:"You are welcome to post binaries in the povray.binaries.*
newsgroups. ", but maybe it should be written: "Thou shall not post
binaries to other than povray.binaries.* newsgroups", maybe then users
get the idea better? I understand, that many peoples are new to
computers and usenet, they get their Wintel box, discover PovRay and
it's newsgroups. Now, due to ignorance they do something wrong (post
HTML messages) and get flamed, which is not pleasant experience for
novices (after some time one will have thicker skin and just ignore
flames).

Other thing, which annoys me, is quite large number of unrelated to
PovRay posts. I'm not pissed, because it will cost me money (I can use
my employer's computer and network connection after work time), but
because it will waste my time. Please be more constructive, don't get
involved into waffle or flaming, keep Your discussions related to the
PovRay.
On a positive note I have to admit, that this server's NGs are more
decent than other usenet NGs.

Now I had long talk: long talk-bad talk.


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