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From: Daren Scot Wilson
Subject: Re: Povray 3.1 for Unix
Date: 3 Jan 1999 16:06:54
Message: <368F95D5.A76C606@pipeline.com>
Glad to hear it!  Of course, the ice cream has to funded from campaing
contributions...<g>

Stephen Lavedas wrote:
> 
> I'll sign up for the iced cream:)
> 
> Daren Scot Wilson wrote:
> >
> > If  Official POV-Ray Linux Supporter were an elected position, here's my
> > campaign speech:
> >
> > I work at a "full time" job, but really put in an average of four days a
> > week, and take no classes. I have two years intensive experience with
> > Linux.   I have already ported POV-Ray 3.1a to Linux.  My computer uses
> > 24-bit color at 1024x768.  I have a mustache.  Vote for me, and free
> > chocolate ice cream for everyone!
-- 
Daren Scot Wilson
dar### [at] pipelinecom 
www.newcolor.com
----
"A ship in a harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for"
                                            -- William Shedd


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From: George Ganoe
Subject: Re: Povray 3.1 for Unix
Date: 5 Jan 1999 22:14:45
Message: <3692D544.5A0FBA40@visi.net>
Daren Scot Wilson wrote:

> ...
>
> George, are you the one and only offical POV-Team member using Linux?
> Are they "hiring"?

Apparently I am the only POV Team member who is using Linux and is aregular in
the Compuserve POVRAY forum.  As for hiring, I would
appreciate all of the help I can get.

> Are you sure you can pull it off along with your
> other obligations?   I know at least three people (including myself) who
> would love to help with the Linux version.

As far as being able to pull it off, I guess I have to since the rest of theteam
is counting on me to get a Linux distribution released.  Since the POV
teams home is on Compuserve, and there is a real scarcity of unix users there,
I intend to try and act as a liason between the team and the unix community
of users who interact here.

I am going to try and set up a mailing list for Linux (unix) POV users who
are interested in helping with the development necessary to keep their version
current.  I am concentrating primarily on the Linux release, since that is what
I use, but with the source for that, most unix users can create a runable build
for their own systems.  Anyone who would be interested in helping is welcome to
email me and I will consider putting you on the mailing list assuming I can get
one started.

                  George


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From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: Povray 3.1 for Unix
Date: 5 Jan 1999 22:34:30
Message: <3692D9BC.64EB1A83@flash.net>
George Ganoe wrote:
>  Since the POV teams home is on Compuserve....

Isn't it severely limiting itself by confining its membership thus?

The vast majority of programming and raytracing talent isn't on
Compuserve.


Dan


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From: George Ganoe
Subject: Re: Povray 3.1 for Unix
Date: 6 Jan 1999 23:02:12
Message: <36941848.210C6A51@visi.net>
Dan Connelly wrote:

> George Ganoe wrote:
> >  Since the POV teams home is on Compuserve....
>
> Isn't it severely limiting itself by confining its membership thus?
>
> The vast majority of programming and raytracing talent isn't on
> Compuserve.
>
> Dan


Compuserve has been POV-Ray's home since its beginning.  I think
the long time members feel more at home there, and are used to
the mode of operations available to them there.  There are some
features of Compuserve that don't exist to my knowledge on the
internet which are useful to the team.

You may be right that the majority of networked programming and
raytracing is currently on the internet, but when POV started,
Compuserve had more users than the internet.

                George


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Povray 3.1 for Unix
Date: 7 Jan 1999 02:41:21
Message: <369464A8.2E700428@pacbell.net>
George Ganoe wrote:

> 
> Compuserve has been POV-Ray's home since its beginning.  I think
> the long time members feel more at home there, and are used to
> the mode of operations available to them there.  There are some
> features of Compuserve that don't exist to my knowledge on the
> internet which are useful to the team.
> 
> You may be right that the majority of networked programming and
> raytracing is currently on the internet, but when POV started,
> Compuserve had more users than the internet.
> 
>                 George

Without putting down what you say too much but many a
comapany has gone out of business because of the attitude
"we have always done it like that why change now".

-- 
Ken Tyler

tyl### [at] pacbellnet


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From: Mark Radosevich
Subject: Re: Povray 3.1 for Unix
Date: 7 Jan 1999 02:57:38
Message: <3694696F.BDD8EDFC@randolph.spa.edu>
Ken wrote:
...
> Without putting down what you say too much but many a
> comapany has gone out of business because of the attitude
> "we have always done it like that why change now".
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler
> 
> tyl### [at] pacbellnet

Fortunately, few of us are here for the money.

-Mark R.


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Povray 3.1 for Unix
Date: 7 Jan 1999 02:58:56
Message: <369468C6.B5371C2@pacbell.net>
Mark Radosevich wrote:
> 
> Fortunately, few of us are here for the money.
> 
> -Mark R.

I was generalizing.
-- 
Ken Tyler

tyl### [at] pacbellnet


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From: povray org admin team
Subject: Re: Povray 3.1 for Unix
Date: 7 Jan 1999 08:38:06
Message: <3694b8bb.15070171@news.povray.org>
Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:

>George Ganoe wrote:
>
>> 
>> Compuserve has been POV-Ray's home since its beginning.  I think
>> the long time members feel more at home there, and are used to
>> the mode of operations available to them there.  There are some
>> features of Compuserve that don't exist to my knowledge on the
>> internet which are useful to the team.
>> 
>> You may be right that the majority of networked programming and
>> raytracing is currently on the internet, but when POV started,
>> Compuserve had more users than the internet.
>> 
>>                 George
>
>Without putting down what you say too much but many a
>comapany has gone out of business because of the attitude
>"we have always done it like that why change now".

Compuserve provides us with a comfortable and private environment with which we
are all comfortable. There are no advantages for us in giving that up.
Therefore we choose to keep it.


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Povray 3.1 for Unix
Date: 7 Jan 1999 11:30:28
Message: <3694e124.0@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 13:39:39 GMT, povray.org admin team 
	<new### [at] DESPAMpovrayorg> wrote:
>Compuserve provides us with a comfortable and private environment with which we
>are all comfortable. There are no advantages for us in giving that up.
>Therefore we choose to keep it.

I hate to disagree, because it doesn't really matter to me where the Team
chooses to work so long as you keep giving us great toys, but one advantage 
to giving it up would be finding a few more qualified people to help spread 
the workload.  At present, the only way to be a Team member is to be good, 
be dedicated, be invited, ... and be willing to pay for a Compuserve account.  
There are lots of people who would probably make great additions to the Team 
were it not for the fact that they'll never switch ISPs, and can't justify
the additional expense of a Compuserve account.

There are other comfortable and private environments on the Internet at large,
though they might require some acclimatization: private news servers, private 
FTP/web sites, invite-only IRC channels...


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From: povray org admin team
Subject: Re: Povray 3.1 for Unix
Date: 9 Jan 1999 09:50:20
Message: <36976b18.45121468@news.povray.org>
>be dedicated, be invited, ... and be willing to pay for a Compuserve account.

Not necessarily. Since we have our own forum, we have a number of discretionary
free accounts. That's not to say that we have any spare, but I wanted to make
the point that we have more support from Compuserve than you seem to think.


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