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Their clock might run slower, but they've spent their money on where it
really matters to us. The FPU. Compare render times for the various chips
and you'll find that competitors chips that run at a faster clock render more
slowly because of faulty/poorly made FPU's.
(though AMD looks like they may finally fix this in the next gen)
KillFile
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Lewis Sellers wrote:
> gilberto wrote:
> >
> > Are Povray team planning a K6-2 3DNow! optimization ?
>
> The K7's should be fun. Dual K7 800mhz. yummy. :)
>
> Anyone noticed that Intel cpu's are slower than alpha's, powerpc g3's
> and amd's? <laughter>
I did.
>
> Must have spent all their money on those flashy commercials and didn't
> have anything for r&d.
>
I'm with you.
>
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KillFile wrote:
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> (though AMD looks like they may finally fix this in the next gen)
Yea. Looks like the k7's will have 2 to 4 times the fpu power of the
closest intel designs. :)
> KillFile
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Is that really so? I am going to buy a new machine soon and was inclined
to get a Celeron A as a relatively cheap alternative with a fast FPU. If
what you say is true, I will go for the K7 anytime!
Margus
Lewis Sellers wrote:
>
> Yea. Looks like the k7's will have 2 to 4 times the fpu power of the
> closest intel designs. :)
>
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Aahh... Sorry about speaking before checking. Appears the K7 won't be
cheap at all! Oh well...
Margus
Margus Ramst wrote:
> I will go for the K7 anytime!
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Lewis Sellers <lse### [at] usitnet> wrote in article
<365ABD42.CB8044B7@usit.net>...
>
>
> gilberto wrote:
> >
> > Are Povray team planning a K6-2 3DNow! optimization ?
>
> The K7's should be fun. Dual K7 800mhz. yummy. :)
>
> Anyone noticed that Intel cpu's are slower than alpha's, powerpc g3's
> and amd's? <laughter>
> Must have spent all their money on those flashy commercials and didn't
> have anything for r&d.
>
Slower in what way ? Mhz, Flops, Instructions per second, what ?
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Scott Hill wrote:
> Slower in what way ? Mhz, Flops, Instructions per second, what ?
Slower than K7's advertising department ?
Ken Tyler
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Miguel Alvarez Rodriguez wrote in message
<3662F9CF.788D09CC@abonados.cplus.es>...
>Lewis Sellers wrote:
>> Must have spent all their money on those flashy commercials and didn't
>> have anything for r&d.
>>
>
>I'm with you.
>
And those cool suits! In outfits like that, they must have fast chips...
Or way too much free time... He He.
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Just a word about it... AFAIK, the 3DNow! instructions work on
single-precision floating point numbers only. If so, that's not quite enough
for POVRay to get accurate results, so double-precision must be used. Anyone
has more info on this?
Luis Alberto Rojas M.
lro### [at] puccl
gilberto wrote in message <01be14fc$3407e7c0$60f4ffc8@e5z9e8>...
>Are Povray team planning a K6-2 3DNow! optimization ?
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In article <365EFB8E.F137BDB3@usit.net>, Lewis Sellers <lse### [at] usitnet>
wrote:
> Spider wrote:
> > Hmm... That has anything to do with RISC instructions ???
> > While alpha have reduced the number of instructions, intel has
increased... ttt..
> > //Spider
> Most likely so. Intel seems to be going the route of adding more
> "proprietary" instructions to their chips in an attempt to control the
> market. The effect is their processors are getting more complex, but it
> is complexity for complexities sake -- not for increasing their
> processing power.
> I think this is starting to backfire on them somewhat.
Alphas have very accelerated clocks but it doesn't translate directly
to efficiency- it's sort of like they are in a lower gear revving away
like mad.
PPCs have simpler instruction sets and an emphasis on a kajillion
registers, all general-purpose, and though they run a bit slower than x86
clock-wise they depend on the fact that they're easier for a compiler to
optimize for (less special cases and fancy tricks that aren't generally
useful, more registers which are more adaptable)
:)
Chris Johnson
@airwindows.com
chrisj
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