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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: trivial modifications of pre-existing works
Date: 1 Jan 2005 03:23:11
Message: <41d6179f$1@news.povray.org>
<< Pre-existing works (or trivial modifications of pre-existing works) are 
not allowed. Winning images will be available for public inspection for a 
period of two weeks after the announcement of the winners before the winners 
will be eligible to collect their prizes.  >>


I was all excited about maybe submitting 2 or 3 entries, and then I saw 
these words and got a horrible sinking feeling.  Everything I do is a 
trivial modification of existing work.  But on the two tracks I'm 
considering, I've easily spent a man day on the changes.  Any thoughts?
From: Warp
Subject: Re: trivial modifications of pre-existing works
Date: 1 Jan 2005 12:45:00
Message: <41d69b4c@news.povray.org>
Greg M. Johnson <gregj;-)565### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> I was all excited about maybe submitting 2 or 3 entries, and then I saw 
> these words and got a horrible sinking feeling.  Everything I do is a 
> trivial modification of existing work.  But on the two tracks I'm 
> considering, I've easily spent a man day on the changes.  Any thoughts?

  It means that you are not allowed to take a scene you made last year,
perhaps change the color of a couple of objects in the scene and submit
that as an entry to the competition.

  If you base your entry on an old scene of yours but you radically
improve it, I believe it's acceptable.

-- 
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N(D)#end#end#macro M()<mod(D,13)-6mod(div(D,13)8)-3,10>#end blob{
N(11117333955)N(4254934330)N(3900569407)N(7382340)N(3358)N(970)}//  - Warp -
From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Re: trivial modifications of pre-existing works
Date: 1 Jan 2005 17:15:30
Message: <41d6dab2$1@news.povray.org>
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
news:41d69b4c@news.povray.org...
> Greg M. Johnson <gregj;-)565### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>> I was all excited about maybe submitting 2 or 3 entries, and then I saw
>> these words and got a horrible sinking feeling.  Everything I do is a
>> trivial modification of existing work.  But on the two tracks I'm
>> considering, I've easily spent a man day on the changes.  Any thoughts?
>
>  It means that you are not allowed to take a scene you made last year,
> perhaps change the color of a couple of objects in the scene and submit
> that as an entry to the competition.
>
>  If you base your entry on an old scene of yours but you radically
> improve it, I believe it's acceptable.
>

That's the way I believe it was intended.  Basically, they just don't want 
people re-hashing old IRTC entries with only slight modifications, simply in 
order to fit within the rules.  If you use pre-existing objects, simply 
mention that they were pre-existing and what changes (if any) you made to 
them.  It will be considered in the judging.

When the competition was extended, I think they made it more clear that 
"incredible image" would be the largest component of the judging.  If you 
look at Gilles' "The Wet Bird" (always a good example ;-) ), he made 
extensive use of 3rd party models.  Would such an image have a chance at 
winning POVComp?  I'm pretty sure that it would, however if someone else had 
produced exactly the same image, but hand-created all of their models during 
the competition, they would gain the edge.

At least that's the way I see it.  Currently, I've created most of the 
models in my entry specifically for the competition, even though I could 
have used 3rd-party models for some things, simply because early-on, I 
believed that was the larger intent of the competition.

Again, I can't say exactly how the judges will judge, other than what is 
already said on the POVComp site, but that's my personal take on the matter. 
As always, I could be wrong.

-- 
Jeremy
www.beantoad.com

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