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From: LanuHum
Subject: Where my background? Help me, please!
Date: 18 Jul 2015 21:15:02
Message: <web.55aac094763dc3187a3e03fe0@news.povray.org>
Hi!
I understand nothing.
Or I am already tired?
I attach a scene.
Sky_sphere is declared, but background transparent.


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From: LanuHum
Subject: Re: Where my background? Help me, please!
Date: 19 Jul 2015 09:40:04
Message: <web.55ab6f3c957947cb7a3e03fe0@news.povray.org>
Meshmaker - background kills.


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Where my background? Help me, please!
Date: 19 Jul 2015 16:38:42
Message: <55abd292$1@news.povray.org>
Le 15-07-18 17:10, LanuHum a écrit :
> Hi!
> I understand nothing.
> Or I am already tired?
> I attach a scene.
> Sky_sphere is declared, but background transparent.
>

The default background colour is black. You did not change it, so, it's 
still black.

Your sky_sphere is all black:
"sky_sphere { pigment {rgb<0.000, 0.000, 0.000>}}"

It's thus impossible to see it at all. It's not transparent, just the 
same colour as the default cackground.
In this case, it's beter to simply set a background colour: 
background{rgb<0.2,0.001,0.001>} // Dark red

Try giving your sky_sphere another colour, or some pattern.
Try using just a plain background, again, using some other colour than 
black.



Alain


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From: LanuHum
Subject: Re: Where my background? Help me, please!
Date: 19 Jul 2015 19:50:00
Message: <web.55abfed1957947cb7a3e03fe0@news.povray.org>
Alain <kua### [at] videotronca> wrote:
> Le 15-07-18 17:10, LanuHum a écrit :
> > Hi!
> > I understand nothing.
> > Or I am already tired?
> > I attach a scene.
> > Sky_sphere is declared, but background transparent.
> >
>
> The default background colour is black. You did not change it, so, it's
> still black.
>
> Your sky_sphere is all black:
> "sky_sphere { pigment {rgb<0.000, 0.000, 0.000>}}"
>
> It's thus impossible to see it at all. It's not transparent, just the
> same colour as the default cackground.
> In this case, it's beter to simply set a background colour:
> background{rgb<0.2,0.001,0.001>} // Dark red
>
> Try giving your sky_sphere another colour, or some pattern.
> Try using just a plain background, again, using some other colour than
> black.
>
>
>
> Alain

No! No!
One scene, one settings sky_sphere.
Sky_sphere - no, if I add in scene object created by means of meshmaker.
If it delete and add mesh or other - sky_sphere appears.
I hundred times checked before to ask.
Scene is attached pre, load and check.


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Where my background? Help me, please!
Date: 20 Jul 2015 18:33:20
Message: <55ad3ef0@news.povray.org>
Le 15-07-19 15:47, LanuHum a écrit :
> Alain <kua### [at] videotronca> wrote:
>> Le 15-07-18 17:10, LanuHum a écrit :
>>> Hi!
>>> I understand nothing.
>>> Or I am already tired?
>>> I attach a scene.
>>> Sky_sphere is declared, but background transparent.
>>>
>>
>> The default background colour is black. You did not change it, so, it's
>> still black.
>>
>> Your sky_sphere is all black:
>> "sky_sphere { pigment {rgb<0.000, 0.000, 0.000>}}"
>>
>> It's thus impossible to see it at all. It's not transparent, just the
>> same colour as the default cackground.
>> In this case, it's beter to simply set a background colour:
>> background{rgb<0.2,0.001,0.001>} // Dark red
>>
>> Try giving your sky_sphere another colour, or some pattern.
>> Try using just a plain background, again, using some other colour than
>> black.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alain
>
> No! No!
> One scene, one settings sky_sphere.
> Sky_sphere - no, if I add in scene object created by means of meshmaker.
> If it delete and add mesh or other - sky_sphere appears.
> I hundred times checked before to ask.
> Scene is attached pre, load and check.
>

Very strange indeed.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Where my background? Help me, please!
Date: 31 Jul 2015 17:04:19
Message: <55bbaa93@news.povray.org>
Am 19.07.2015 um 11:34 schrieb LanuHum:
> Meshmaker - background kills.

It's a bug in the meshmaker include file, which overrides the scene 
language version to 3.5.

The meshmaker file was designed to use 3.5 syntax, so it uses a 
"#version 3.5;" directive to ensure compatibility with future versions. 
This is not uncommon for default include files, and no problem provided 
they remember and restore the previously-set version, using a construct 
like this:

     #declare Foo_Inc_Temp = version;
     #version 3.5;

     ...

     #version Foo_Inc_Temp;

Meshmaker tries to do this, but gets the construct wrong, issuing the 
"#version" statement /before/ backing up the currently set version:

     #version 3.5;
     #ifndef(makemesh_Inc_Temp)
        #declare makemesh_Inc_Temp = version;

     ...

     #version makemesh_Inc_Temp;
     #end //ifndef

This should instead be:

     #ifndef(makemesh_Inc_Temp)
        #declare makemesh_Inc_Temp = version;
        #version 3.5;

     ...

     #version makemesh_Inc_Temp;
     #end //ifndef


The behaviour of sky_sphere with Output_Alpha=1 was changed with version 
3.7, but for the sake of backward compatibility this change is only 
active when "#version 3.7" or higher is specified. The new behaviour 
makes the sky_sphere behave equivalent to a sphere with emission-only 
finish scaled to a very huge size, whereas previous versions would hide 
a sky_sphere in such cases.


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From: LanuHum
Subject: Re: Where my background? Help me, please!
Date: 1 Aug 2015 06:00:05
Message: <web.55bc6033957947cb7a3e03fe0@news.povray.org>
clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Am 19.07.2015 um 11:34 schrieb LanuHum:
> > Meshmaker - background kills.
>
> It's a bug in the meshmaker include file, which overrides the scene
> language version to 3.5.
>


Thanks!


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