On 29-10-2018 10:17, Stephen wrote:
> On 29/10/2018 07:44, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 29-10-2018 7:36, dick balaska wrote:
>>> On 10/28/18 3:28 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>> On 28-10-2018 7:38, Ton wrote:
>>>>> Here is the result of playing around with vectors and angles.
>>>>> Looks like a nice round backside.....
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes. There still seems to be a hint of angles in the curve though. 
>>>> Could
>>>> to be solved with a bit higher resolution of the mesh.
>>>>
>>>

>>> riveting steel.
>>
>> That is indeed true. Lets wait for the completed hull before 
>> assembling the jury again. ;-)
>>
> 
> Bear in mind that it is the superstructure not the hull. I would expect 
> the steel plates to be cut and shaped to a wooden pattern built by 
> carpenters from drawings for each part.
> If you want an idea of what shipbuilding was like 30 years later. Look 

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> https://tinyurl.com/y88hd9co

This is brilliant! Thanks for the link. I shall put that aside for 
future reference/use in some scene or other. Inspiring.

Reminds me of Christopher Richard Wynne Nevinson. One of his paintings 
appears on the book cover of David Landes' "The Wealth and Poverty of 
Nations". Good read.

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>>>
>>> I can only find one picture of the stern (lots of drawings of it in the
>>> air though...)
>>>
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/120405051718-titanic-ship-cobh-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg

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> 
> Nice find. :)
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> 


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Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:

> Reminds me of Christopher Richard Wynne Nevinson. One of his paintings
> appears on the book cover of David Landes' "The Wealth and Poverty of
> Nations". Good read.





argument is the geographic situation, which favors Western world and China.....


Norbert

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Wow, it's amazing how this thread curves and bends in all kind of unexpected
directions. The intellect, and interests, of this group of people is fantastic.
I apologize for decreasing the average IQ....

To Sven, it might be nice to place your steamboat next to Titanic, and compare
the size. I use one feet per POV-unit, but that shouldn't be a problem. How long
is your paddle steamer? Titanic was 882' 9", which is in our modern world 296
meter.

Building a ship in those days was not for the faint-hearted. Hard, dangerous,
extremely noisy work. When you see the photo's of Belfast's Harland & Wolff, and
see the small planks the had to walk on, and then hammer the rivets,
unbelievable that they managed it.

I want to finish the stern (thanks Stephen) and bow. There are still some loose
threads on the superstructure, the bridge needs some equipment, and then move
slowly down to the keel.

Cheers everybody
Ton.

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Okay. So, if you want to have the files of my still unfinished riverboat
(it later will become Public Domain), then let me have your e-mail
address. Remember not to write your e-mail address in a too straight
way, as there are countless spammer bots that try to capture e-mail
addresses.

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http://www.avg.com

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On 29-10-2018 19:11, Norbert Kern wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> 
>> Reminds me of Christopher Richard Wynne Nevinson. One of his paintings
>> appears on the book cover of David Landes' "The Wealth and Poverty of
>> Nations". Good read.
> 
> 



> argument is the geographic situation, which favors Western world and China.....
> 

Both explanations are valid imo. It shows the complexity of interactions 
between human society (including religion and politics), natural 
resources, climate, etc. As it happens, I am currently re-reading Landes 
at the moment.


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Thomas

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Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>
> Both explanations are valid imo. It shows the complexity of interactions
> between human society (including religion and politics), natural
> resources, climate, etc. As it happens, I am currently re-reading Landes
> at the moment.


Once again I see some similarities in our interests and attitudes....

Norbert

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On 31-10-2018 15:41, Norbert Kern wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>>
>> Both explanations are valid imo. It shows the complexity of interactions
>> between human society (including religion and politics), natural
>> resources, climate, etc. As it happens, I am currently re-reading Landes
>> at the moment.
> 
> 
> Once again I see some similarities in our interests and attitudes....
> 

<grin>

Yes, it seems so. We are not alone. There is still some hope for the 
planet... ;-)

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Thomas

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Sven Littkowski <I### [at] SvenLittkowskiname> wrote:
> Okay. So, if you want to have the files of my still unfinished riverboat
> (it later will become Public Domain), then let me have your e-mail
> address. Remember not to write your e-mail address in a too straight
> way, as there are countless spammer bots that try to capture e-mail
> addresses.
>
> ---

> http://www.avg.com

Hallo Sven,

my username is tonkiwi, and the domain is the gmail community.
Might be a nice picture to have those two completely different ships together.

Cheers
Ton.

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Here is a first try with Sven's Mississippi steamer, and my steamship Titanic.
Both models aren't finished yet, a Work In Progress you might say, but here they
are.
The scale is the same, Sven's model is 1m/1unit, mine is 1'/1unit, so I scaled
the riverboat by 100/30.48 (12 inch, 1 foot, I am getting clever with the
imperial system!).

Cheers
Ton

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Am 06.11.2018 um 10:05 schrieb Ton:
> Here is a first try with Sven's Mississippi steamer, and my steamship Titanic.
> Both models aren't finished yet, a Work In Progress you might say, but here they
> are.
> The scale is the same, Sven's model is 1m/1unit, mine is 1'/1unit, so I scaled
> the riverboat by 100/30.48 (12 inch, 1 foot, I am getting clever with the
> imperial system!).

Are you sure the scale is right? The riverboat seems rather oversized to 
me, given how humongously large the Titanic allegedly was.

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