clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:

>
> - getting perceptually pleasing brightness gradients (the "blend_mode"
> and "blend_gamma" mechanism now provides for this)...

Have those new features been added to the online wiki yet? If so, I'm not sure
where to look, to find them. (In 'pigments'? In 'lights'?)

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Am 01.02.2016 um 03:57 schrieb Kenneth:
> clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> 
>>
>> - getting perceptually pleasing brightness gradients (the "blend_mode"
>> and "blend_gamma" mechanism now provides for this)...
> 
> Have those new features been added to the online wiki yet? If so, I'm not sure
> where to look, to find them. (In 'pigments'? In 'lights'?)

No docs yet, except for the GitHub changelog and a post or two on these
newsgroups.

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clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Am 01.02.2016 um 03:57 schrieb Kenneth:
> > clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> - getting perceptually pleasing brightness gradients (the "blend_mode"
> >> and "blend_gamma" mechanism now provides for this)...
> >
> > Have those new features been added to the online wiki yet? If so, I'm not sure
> > where to look, to find them. (In 'pigments'? In 'lights'?)
>
> No docs yet, except for the GitHub changelog and a post or two on these
> newsgroups.

I found it in a newsgroup post, thanks:

http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/message/%3C567f502c%241%40news.povray.org%3E/#%3C567f502c%241%40news.povr
ay.org%3E

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And here too (more detailed info)...

http://news.povray.org/povray.beta-test/thread/%3C54c0308a$1@news.povray.org%3E/

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Simon J. Cambridge wrote on 28/01/2016 17.44:
> Hello to all. First time poster here.
>
> I hope I am right in thinking that this is the best place to post this.
>
> Here is an image I created as an adjunct to a trilogy of fantasy novels I have
> written. I am not sure how many people have ever done this, but I decided to use
> pov-ray (long time user) to create all the illustrations for the accompanying
> website (www.landofthefirst.com). I also used pov-ray to create the book cover
> art.
>
> I would be really interested to know what other pov-ray users thought of my
> efforts.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Simon J. Cambridge
>
> PS. How do you create actual links on a message here?
>
>
>

Nice images (some of these are a bit scary...), but really nice, 
especially the exteriors.
;-)
Paolo

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Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> On 1/30/2016 4:21 PM, Simon J. Cambridge wrote:
> > I tend to render with gamma 2.2, but that is not hard and fast, especially when
> > using brighter lights, and some of the images were colour corrected afterwards
> > anyway. From looking at other conversations here concerning gamma, I get the
> > impression that it is a contentious issue. (And I didn't know that 3.7.1 was in
> > the works - excellent news).
>
> Yes Clipka and Cousin Ricky have a holy mission. :-)

OMG, I think you've just identified a mission for my life.  I feel a new sense
of purpose!  Thanks!

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On 2/1/2016 3:58 PM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>> On 1/30/2016 4:21 PM, Simon J. Cambridge wrote:
>>> I tend to render with gamma 2.2, but that is not hard and fast, especially when
>>> using brighter lights, and some of the images were colour corrected afterwards
>>> anyway. From looking at other conversations here concerning gamma, I get the
>>> impression that it is a contentious issue. (And I didn't know that 3.7.1 was in
>>> the works - excellent news).
>>
>> Yes Clipka and Cousin Ricky have a holy mission. :-)
>
> OMG, I think you've just identified a mission for my life.  I feel a new sense
> of purpose!  Thanks!
>
>
I try to spread a little light and happiness wherever I go. :)


-- 

Regards
     Stephen

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On 1/30/2016 9:35 PM, clipka wrote:
> Am 30.01.2016 um 17:42 schrieb Stephen:
>
>>
>> Yes Clipka and Cousin Ricky have a holy mission. :-)
>
> It's not contentious anymore -- see? Nobody has contradicted my Words of
> Holy Wisdom for years :P
>

'Cause the are all afeart. :)

>> I don't care that much myself. As long as it looks fine. :-)
>
> That might be because you're not a developer having to put up with
> people claiming that what you're doing and officially recommending is
> wrong ;)
>

That might be but I think that photorealism is too demanding on both 
time and my abilities. I am more interested in animations. So multiply 
the rendering time for a scene by 1500 for each minute of the video. :(

>
> Some people had (somewhat correctly) observed that these problems do not
> appear with an "assumed_gamma" of their choice, and from there
> (incorrectly) jumped to questioning the legitimacy of the "assumed_gamma
> 1.0" in its entirety. My take on it has been -- and will always be --
> different: /Knowing/ for a fact that "assumed_gamma 1.0" is the one and
> only right (read: phyiscally realistic) way, I must concldue that
> "assumed_gamma 2.2" /cannot/ be the /proper/ solutions to these
> problems, and instead just obscures them, and that therefore I need to
> find a different solution to these problems.
>

Do you need to find other solutions when PovRay is based on physically 
realistic rendering?
IMO It is up to the artist to use the tools as they can. It is not as if 
you get drummed out of the club for disagreeing.


> Obviously, that's a different perspective as that of the artist: The
> artist needs to take what's available, and make the best of it to
> achieve the desired result. So what's utterly wrong from the perspective
> of the software developer may still be sufficiently legitimate for the
> artist.
>
As it is in life. I've often used software modules for something other 
than what they are intended for. Because it works and is cheaper and 
quicker than getting a bespoke module written.

-- 

Regards
     Stephen

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"BayashiPascal" <Pas### [at] BayashiInJapannet> wrote:
> This is an impressive amount of work !
> You command respect. :-)
>
>
>
> "Simon J. Cambridge" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> > Hello to all. First time poster here.
> >
> > I hope I am right in thinking that this is the best place to post this.
> >
> > Here is an image I created as an adjunct to a trilogy of fantasy novels I have
> > written. I am not sure how many people have ever done this, but I decided to use
> > pov-ray (long time user) to create all the illustrations for the accompanying
> > website (www.landofthefirst.com). I also used pov-ray to create the book cover
> > art.
> >
> > I would be really interested to know what other pov-ray users thought of my
> > efforts.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Simon J. Cambridge
> >
> > PS. How do you create actual links on a message here?

Thank you Bayashi. As you can imagine, it took a long time to do. Many of the
images are overnight renders (intel quad core). I tend to render large images
first (2048x1536), and then reduce for the web.

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Paolo Gibellini <p.g### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Simon J. Cambridge wrote on 28/01/2016 17.44:
> > Hello to all. First time poster here.
> >
> > I hope I am right in thinking that this is the best place to post this.
> >
> > Here is an image I created as an adjunct to a trilogy of fantasy novels I have
> > written. I am not sure how many people have ever done this, but I decided to use
> > pov-ray (long time user) to create all the illustrations for the accompanying
> > website (www.landofthefirst.com). I also used pov-ray to create the book cover
> > art.
> >
> > I would be really interested to know what other pov-ray users thought of my
> > efforts.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Simon J. Cambridge
> >
> > PS. How do you create actual links on a message here?
> >
> >
> >
>
> Nice images (some of these are a bit scary...), but really nice,
> especially the exteriors.
> ;-)
> Paolo

Thank you Paolo.

Scary? Good! Scary is hard to get right!

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