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From: "Jörg \"Yadgar\" Bleimann"
Subject: Re: Snakes in space
Date: 19 Sep 2015 09:18:51
Message: <55fd60bb$1@news.povray.org>
Hi(gh)!

On 18.09.2015 23:31, Bill Pragnell wrote:
> Greetings everyone.
> Not posted for ages, but been tinkering a bit recently. Time for an age test...
> anybody recognise this?

Of course! Too bad that I currently have no computer with a 3.5" disk 
drive (and MS-DOS!) to install my Elite II Frontier...

Nice greebling - is it real or just a normal pattern?

See you in Khyberspace!

Yadgar


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Snakes in space
Date: 19 Sep 2015 10:19:25
Message: <55fd6eed$1@news.povray.org>
On 9/18/2015 10:31 PM, Bill Pragnell wrote:
>   Time for an age test...
> anybody recognise this?

Only from the history books. :-)

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Larry Hudson
Subject: Re: Snakes in space
Date: 19 Sep 2015 15:18:02
Message: <55fdb4ea$1@news.povray.org>
On 09/19/2015 06:18 AM, "Jörg \"Yadgar\" Bleimann" wrote:
[snip]
> Of course! Too bad that I currently have no computer with a 3.5" disk drive (and
MS-DOS!) to
> install my Elite II Frontier...
>
1}  If you want to bother with the expense, there are USB 3.5" drives available.

2)  As for a DOS emulator...  Check out DOSBox.  It's primarily intended for old
games, but will 
run most DOS programs.  Available for Window/Linux/Macs.

      -=- Larry -=-


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Snakes in space
Date: 19 Sep 2015 16:58:42
Message: <55fdcc82$1@news.povray.org>
On 9/19/2015 8:18 PM, Larry Hudson wrote:
> On 09/19/2015 06:18 AM, "Jörg \"Yadgar\" Bleimann" wrote:
> [snip]
>> Of course! Too bad that I currently have no computer with a 3.5" disk
>> drive (and MS-DOS!) to
>> install my Elite II Frontier...
>>
> 1}  If you want to bother with the expense, there are USB 3.5" drives
> available.
>
> 2)  As for a DOS emulator...  Check out DOSBox.  It's primarily intended
> for old games, but will run most DOS programs.  Available for
> Window/Linux/Macs.
>
>       -=- Larry -=-
>

Or play OOlite
http://www.oolite.org/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oolite_%28video_game%29 	

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Snakes in space
Date: 19 Sep 2015 17:25:00
Message: <web.55fdd1a9fffc18ec26380cb20@news.povray.org>
=?windows-1252?Q?=22J=F6rg_=5C=22Yadgar=5C=22_Bleimann=22?= <yaz### [at] gmxde>
wrote:
> Of course! Too bad that I currently have no computer with a 3.5" disk
> drive (and MS-DOS!) to install my Elite II Frontier...

This was derived from the original BBC Micro version ship data - 5.25" disk, or
even cassette!

> Nice greebling - is it real or just a normal pattern?

Haha, I have no idea how I'd do it with a normal pattern. They're real -
bevelled prisms, subdivided across the longest edges.

Bill


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Snakes in space
Date: 19 Sep 2015 17:30:01
Message: <web.55fdd2befffc18ec26380cb20@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> On 9/19/2015 8:18 PM, Larry Hudson wrote:
> > On 09/19/2015 06:18 AM, "Jörg \"Yadgar\" Bleimann" wrote:
> > [snip]
> >> Of course! Too bad that I currently have no computer with a 3.5" disk
> >> drive (and MS-DOS!) to
> >> install my Elite II Frontier...
> >
> > 2)  As for a DOS emulator...  Check out DOSBox.  It's primarily intended
> > for old games, but will run most DOS programs.  Available for
> > Window/Linux/Macs.
>
> Or play OOlite
> http://www.oolite.org/
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oolite_%28video_game%29

Or get a BBC Micro emulator (e.g. http://www.mkw.me.uk/beebem/) and play it as
nature intended in glorious 320x256 4-colour nineteen-eighty-fouriness.

Bill


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Snakes in space
Date: 19 Sep 2015 19:22:57
Message: <55fdee51@news.povray.org>
Am 19.09.2015 um 23:25 schrieb Bill Pragnell:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>> On 9/19/2015 8:18 PM, Larry Hudson wrote:
>>> On 09/19/2015 06:18 AM, "Jörg \"Yadgar\" Bleimann" wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>> Of course! Too bad that I currently have no computer with a 3.5" disk
>>>> drive (and MS-DOS!) to
>>>> install my Elite II Frontier...
>>>
>>> 2)  As for a DOS emulator...  Check out DOSBox.  It's primarily intended
>>> for old games, but will run most DOS programs.  Available for
>>> Window/Linux/Macs.
>>
>> Or play OOlite
>> http://www.oolite.org/
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oolite_%28video_game%29
> 
> Or get a BBC Micro emulator (e.g. http://www.mkw.me.uk/beebem/) and play it as
> nature intended in glorious 320x256 4-colour nineteen-eighty-fouriness.

Still requires you to get a media (tape?) image of the game itself; not
sure if that's possible in any strictly legal fashion unless you owned
the original... or backed the new incarnation on Kickstarter. Yup, you
heard me: Backers have official access to the Good Old Times ;)

(I'm pretty sure the CPC version didn't flicker that much though, so
personally I'd prefer that one. Provided it doesn't crash as often as it
did back then... ;))


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Snakes in space
Date: 19 Sep 2015 20:00:01
Message: <web.55fdf5f6fffc18ec26380cb20@news.povray.org>
clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Still requires you to get a media (tape?) image of the game itself; not
> sure if that's possible in any strictly legal fashion unless you owned
> the original... or backed the new incarnation on Kickstarter. Yup, you
> heard me: Backers have official access to the Good Old Times ;)

Aha - http://www.elitehomepage.org/bbc/index.htm

And that's directly from one of the original authors :)


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Snakes in space
Date: 19 Sep 2015 22:48:06
Message: <55fe1e66$1@news.povray.org>
Am 20.09.2015 um 01:55 schrieb Bill Pragnell:
> clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
>> Still requires you to get a media (tape?) image of the game itself; not
>> sure if that's possible in any strictly legal fashion unless you owned
>> the original... or backed the new incarnation on Kickstarter. Yup, you
>> heard me: Backers have official access to the Good Old Times ;)
> 
> Aha - http://www.elitehomepage.org/bbc/index.htm
> 
> And that's directly from one of the original authors :)

Doesn't /exactly/ say anything about the game's legal status.


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Snakes in space
Date: 20 Sep 2015 05:25:06
Message: <web.55fe7a56fffc18ec26380cb20@news.povray.org>
clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Am 20.09.2015 um 01:55 schrieb Bill Pragnell:
> > clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> >> Still requires you to get a media (tape?) image of the game itself; not
> >> sure if that's possible in any strictly legal fashion unless you owned
> >> the original... or backed the new incarnation on Kickstarter. Yup, you
> >> heard me: Backers have official access to the Good Old Times ;)
> >
> > Aha - http://www.elitehomepage.org/bbc/index.htm
> >
> > And that's directly from one of the original authors :)
>
> Doesn't /exactly/ say anything about the game's legal status.

True. Although the history of that site, plus the game's Wikipedia page, seem to
imply that Bell's distribution of the original Elite is legit. I think he and
Braben retained the rights to the game when they originally signed with
Acornsoft, so they could port it to other platforms themselves.


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