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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Spaceship
Date: 1 Aug 2015 01:52:26
Message: <55bc5e9a$1@news.povray.org>
On 8/1/2015 4:56 AM, BayashiPascal wrote:
> clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
>> Looks pretty mean.
>
> Thanks for your comment.
> Do you mean you don't like the image ? Can you explain me why ?
>


He means that it is very good. As it is.

Don't you love young people's English. :)


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From: BayashiPascal
Subject: Re: Spaceship
Date: 1 Aug 2015 02:35:01
Message: <web.55bc67fa9d43d56b512a5e90@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>
>
> He means that it is very good. As it is.
>
> Don't you love young people's English. :)
>
>
> --
>
> Regards
>      Stephen

Thanks for the English lesson, and making me feel a bit older ;-)

And, thanks Clipka. :-)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Spaceship
Date: 1 Aug 2015 02:39:28
Message: <55bc69a0$1@news.povray.org>
On 8/1/2015 7:32 AM, BayashiPascal wrote:
> Thanks for the English lesson, and making me feel a bit older;-)


My pleasure and the word is mature. :-)

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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Spaceship
Date: 1 Aug 2015 04:58:33
Message: <55bc8a39$1@news.povray.org>
Am 01.08.2015 um 05:56 schrieb BayashiPascal:
> clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
>> Looks pretty mean.
>
> Thanks for your comment.
> Do you mean you don't like the image ? Can you explain me why ?

As Stephen already interpreted correctly, that's "mean" in the sense of 
"I hope that thing is not pointing its guns in my general direction" ;) 
- pretty much orthogonal to the question of whether I like the image in 
its entirety or not.

But now that you're asking: I think the background stars are too bright 
in relation to Neptune and the ship, and Neptune looks a bit too flat 
somehow. I know the planet is pretty featureless, but AFAIK the blue 
stuff is a deep layer of gas, not a solid surface, so at least it 
shouldn't be perfectly crisp at the rim. (Then again I've never been 
assigned to the Stealthy Owls squad, so I don't know first hand how 
Neptune looks like in reality.) Also, adding some small-scale turbulence 
to the texture might help overcome the fact that the image map seems a 
tad too low-res for that scale.

Last not least I see some color banding artifacts on Neptune's surface, 
but those should be trivial to eliminate by using the "Dither=yes" .ini 
option.

(Oh, and all of the above doesn't prevent me from liking the image. :))


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From: BayashiPascal
Subject: Re: Spaceship
Date: 1 Aug 2015 21:40:00
Message: <web.55bd74969d43d56bae16c0280@news.povray.org>
clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> As Stephen already interpreted correctly, that's "mean" in the sense of
> "I hope that thing is not pointing its guns in my general direction" ;)
> - pretty much orthogonal to the question of whether I like the image in
> its entirety or not.

Ok, I think I understand now.

> But now that you're asking: I think the background stars are too bright
> in relation to Neptune and the ship, and Neptune looks a bit too flat
> somehow. I know the planet is pretty featureless, but AFAIK the blue
> stuff is a deep layer of gas, not a solid surface, so at least it
> shouldn't be perfectly crisp at the rim. (Then again I've never been
> assigned to the Stealthy Owls squad, so I don't know first hand how
> Neptune looks like in reality.) Also, adding some small-scale turbulence
> to the texture might help overcome the fact that the image map seems a
> tad too low-res for that scale.

I agree with you that my Neptune is not beautiful.
I've looked for a better image map but couldn't find anything. I will see how
turbulence can improve the texture.
At first I thought like you that the rim should be more fuzzy, but looking at
pictures on Internet it appears that it's rather invisible at the distance I've
located the camera from Neptune. The planet is so big that the fuzzy layer is
extremely thin in proportion, I guess. In the other hand I don't have to follow
strictly the reality of course...
The limit between area in light and area in darkness at the bottom right also
annoy me. I would like a clear border, so I should change the position of the
Sun.
Moving Neptune farther to make it smaller may be a solution to many problems,
but I like the composition of the image as it is. I also thought about using
another planet, but I like the idea of placing the spaceship at the edge of our
solar system, which in return made me think about using Pluto instead in
reference to recent news...
The background is a image map of the milky way. I have no idea how bright it may
be viewed from space. I'll see how the image looks if I make it dimmer.

> Last not least I see some color banding artifacts on Neptune's surface,
> but those should be trivial to eliminate by using the "Dither=yes" .ini
> option.

I didn't knew this option. I will try it.

> (Oh, and all of the above doesn't prevent me from liking the image. :))

Thanks again for your detailed comment :-)


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Spaceship
Date: 1 Aug 2015 23:26:23
Message: <55bd8ddf@news.povray.org>

> clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
>> Looks pretty mean.
>
> Thanks for your comment.
> Do you mean you don't like the image ? Can you explain me why ?
>

Mean, as very dangerous for it's oponents.
Those 4 dual barelled turrets mean business... VERY serious business :)


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Spaceship
Date: 2 Aug 2015 00:25:32
Message: <55bd9bbc$1@news.povray.org>
On 08/01/2015 04:57 AM, clipka wrote:
> But now that you're asking: I think the background stars are too bright
> in relation to Neptune and the ship, and Neptune looks a bit too flat
> somehow.

[Puts on Neil deGrasse Tyson hat]

The Milky Way is also at the wrong angle.  The Solar System is inclined 
60 degrees with respect to the plane of the Milky Way.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Spaceship
Date: 2 Aug 2015 12:03:43
Message: <55be3f5f$1@news.povray.org>
Am 02.08.2015 um 06:26 schrieb Cousin Ricky:
> On 08/01/2015 04:57 AM, clipka wrote:
>> But now that you're asking: I think the background stars are too bright
>> in relation to Neptune and the ship, and Neptune looks a bit too flat
>> somehow.
>
> [Puts on Neil deGrasse Tyson hat]

I've never seen him wearing... uh, never mind.


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From: BayashiPascal
Subject: Re: Spaceship
Date: 3 Aug 2015 09:10:00
Message: <web.55bf67c09d43d56b60253cd0@news.povray.org>
Cousin Ricky <ric### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> [Puts on Neil deGrasse Tyson hat]
>
> The Milky Way is also at the wrong angle.  The Solar System is inclined
> 60 degrees with respect to the plane of the Milky Way.

Yes, I haven't taken in consideration this too. As well as the correct
inclination of Neptune... :-)


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Spaceship
Date: 3 Aug 2015 13:02:23
Message: <55bf9e9f$1@news.povray.org>
Am 03.08.2015 um 15:08 schrieb BayashiPascal:
> Cousin Ricky <ric### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
>> [Puts on Neil deGrasse Tyson hat]
>>
>> The Milky Way is also at the wrong angle.  The Solar System is inclined
>> 60 degrees with respect to the plane of the Milky Way.
>
> Yes, I haven't taken in consideration this too. As well as the correct
> inclination of Neptune... :-)

Maybe there's a moment in time when the two errors cancel out :-D


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