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From: MichaelJF
Subject: A secret place
Date: 9 Dec 2014 16:40:01
Message: <web.54876bc01d1ee2ead02f3b00@news.povray.org>
Secret Passages often lead to secret places. Here is a wip of my intended entry
to the actual tc-rtc round. Rendering time was some 37 hours for this one, so I
can only perform minor changes. The image is inspired from my journey to
Cornwall this year (the MudMaid at Heligans and the Men an Tol at Penzance). The
Men an Tol reminds me of an gateway used by a MudMaid to get to her secret
bathing pool, testing the water temperatur with her toe ...

May be I can add the one or other thing, but time is running out.

Best regards,
Michael


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From: s day
Subject: Re: A secret place
Date: 9 Dec 2014 19:20:03
Message: <web.548790c33061694894986c380@news.povray.org>
"MichaelJF" <mi-### [at] t-onlinede> wrote:
> Secret Passages often lead to secret places. Here is a wip of my intended entry
> to the actual tc-rtc round. Rendering time was some 37 hours for this one, so I
> can only perform minor changes. The image is inspired from my journey to
> Cornwall this year (the MudMaid at Heligans and the Men an Tol at Penzance). The
> Men an Tol reminds me of an gateway used by a MudMaid to get to her secret
> bathing pool, testing the water temperatur with her toe ...
>
> May be I can add the one or other thing, but time is running out.
>
> Best regards,
> Michael

Hi Michael,

Not sure why you need my moss, the model of the Mud Maid is very good as it is,
I recall seeing her (laying down though if I remember correctly). I also visited
Men an Tol many years ago. I hope you had a good time in Cornwall.

I think if you are going to add something to the scene some small stones on the
sand in the foreground might be good.

Sean


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From: jhu
Subject: Re: A secret place
Date: 9 Dec 2014 19:20:05
Message: <web.548791a430616948d19b0ec40@news.povray.org>
"MichaelJF" <mi-### [at] t-onlinede> wrote:
> Secret Passages often lead to secret places. Here is a wip of my intended entry
> to the actual tc-rtc round. Rendering time was some 37 hours for this one, so I
> can only perform minor changes. The image is inspired from my journey to
> Cornwall this year (the MudMaid at Heligans and the Men an Tol at Penzance). The
> Men an Tol reminds me of an gateway used by a MudMaid to get to her secret
> bathing pool, testing the water temperatur with her toe ...
>
> May be I can add the one or other thing, but time is running out.
>
> Best regards,
> Michael

Looks nice. Colors seem a bit washed out.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: A secret place
Date: 10 Dec 2014 03:25:52
Message: <54880390$1@news.povray.org>
Good work indeed. One small criticism though: The sand/mud on the far 
side of the pool has the same colour as the sky, which gives the 
illusion of transparency and floating vegetation. Just adapt the pigment 
a bit (or the reflection?)

Thomas


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From: Le Forgeron
Subject: Re: A secret place
Date: 10 Dec 2014 14:54:01
Message: <5488a4d9@news.povray.org>
On 10/12/2014 01:19, jhu wrote:
> "MichaelJF" <mi-### [at] t-onlinede> wrote:
>> Secret Passages often lead to secret places. Here is a wip of my intended entry
>> to the actual tc-rtc round. Rendering time was some 37 hours for this one, so I
>> can only perform minor changes. The image is inspired from my journey to
>> Cornwall this year (the MudMaid at Heligans and the Men an Tol at Penzance). The
>> Men an Tol reminds me of an gateway used by a MudMaid to get to her secret
>> bathing pool, testing the water temperatur with her toe ...
>>
>> May be I can add the one or other thing, but time is running out.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Michael
> 
> Looks nice. Colors seem a bit washed out.
> 
Seconded, can we have less white/light ?

Some true black could be welcome.

Colored sand (yellow/orange) ?

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From: MichaelJF
Subject: Re: A secret place
Date: 10 Dec 2014 15:20:01
Message: <web.5488aa1030616948d5b0a6d50@news.povray.org>
Thank you all for the comments.

@Sean:
I still played around with your moss in this image (moss on rock-version) but
before publishing the image I felt better to use the opportunity to ask you. May
be it's overkill, but this way I had more control over the placement than using
a fourth texture. It's her bra. And yes, the foreground can use some more
details.

Cornwall was wonderful.

@Jhu and Thomas
I think you address the same issue. I used a very slight ground fog to dim the
very bright lightsys-sun.

Best regards,
Michael


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: A secret place
Date: 10 Dec 2014 16:40:39
Message: <5488bdd7$1@news.povray.org>
On 10/12/2014 19:54, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> Coloured sand (yellow/orange) ?


No, no. Silver sand is very prized. It shows that Michael was there.
I agree about the image looking washed out. I often thought that 
Thomas's entries used to have the same look and I would often change the 
gamma, to get a better looking image to my eyes, before voting.

This is another image, in this Challenge,  that depresses me as the 
standard of entries are so good. I despair, ever to to create one of 
this quality.

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: A secret place
Date: 10 Dec 2014 16:51:42
Message: <5488c06e$1@news.povray.org>
On 10/12/2014 20:16, MichaelJF wrote:

> It's her bra.
>

Since you mention it. I don't think that she should wear a bra. She is a 
free spirit. Au natural as Nature intended.

> Cornwall was wonderful.
>

It is a wonderful place. (Shame about the natives. ;-) )

A very good image.

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: A secret place
Date: 11 Dec 2014 08:10:40
Message: <548997d0$1@news.povray.org>
On 10-12-2014 22:51, Stephen wrote:
> On 10/12/2014 20:16, MichaelJF wrote:
>
>> It's her bra.
>>
>
> Since you mention it. I don't think that she should wear a bra. She is a
> free spirit. Au natural as Nature intended.
>

Oh but think about all those innocent eyes browsing the internet! You 
would lead them into frightful temptations (or worse). You don't want to 
have /that/ responsibility on your conscience, do you? ;-)

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: A secret place
Date: 11 Dec 2014 08:13:42
Message: <54899886$1@news.povray.org>
On 10-12-2014 22:40, Stephen wrote:
> On 10/12/2014 19:54, Le_Forgeron wrote:
>> Coloured sand (yellow/orange) ?
>
>
> No, no. Silver sand is very prized. It shows that Michael was there.
> I agree about the image looking washed out. I often thought that
> Thomas's entries used to have the same look and I would often change the
> gamma, to get a better looking image to my eyes, before voting.

In the good old times, yes.

If silver sand, then it needs some sandy look I think. Now it looks more 
like mud.

>
> This is another image, in this Challenge,  that depresses me as the
> standard of entries are so good. I despair, ever to to create one of
> this quality.
>
There is always hope, Stephen :-)

Thomas


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