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From: Robert McGregor
Subject: Pentafoil Molecule
Date: 10 Nov 2011 19:00:01
Message: <web.4ebc64a1897551794d713cc0@news.povray.org>
Hi all,

I was recently asked, by research chemists at the University of Edinburgh (and
their colleagues in Finland), to produce this rendering of their latest chemical
marvel: the world's first designer molecule in the shape of a pentafoil knot.
Their paper was published this week in the prestigious scientific journal Nature
Chemistry, and this rendering was meant to be the magazine's cover shot.
Unfortunately the magazine's art department had other ideas and this didn't make
the cover after all. But, it did make it into New Scientist magazine as part of
their interesting online (and hardcopy print) article:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21132-single-molecule-ties-itself-into-famous-knot.html

The university is also making large format prints of my render to showcase the
molecule around campus and at various scientific conferences.

Cheers,
Rob
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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Pentafoil Molecule
Date: 10 Nov 2011 23:40:01
Message: <web.4ebca71defed49b49a1bcfb90@news.povray.org>
"Robert McGregor" <rob### [at] mcgregorfineartcom> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I was recently asked, by research chemists at the University of Edinburgh (and
> their colleagues in Finland), to produce this rendering of their latest chemical
> marvel: the world's first designer molecule in the shape of a pentafoil knot.
> Their paper was published this week in the prestigious scientific journal Nature
> Chemistry, and this rendering was meant to be the magazine's cover shot.
> Unfortunately the magazine's art department had other ideas and this didn't make
> the cover after all. But, it did make it into New Scientist magazine as part of
> their interesting online (and hardcopy print) article:
>
>
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21132-single-molecule-ties-itself-into-famous-knot.html
>
> The university is also making large format prints of my render to showcase the
> molecule around campus and at various scientific conferences.
>
> Cheers,
> Rob
> -------------------------------------------------
> www.McGregorFineArt.com

Congrats, dude.  A very fine illustration for the new molecule.

Hah, we can always be amused to know the atom is reflecting a kitchen HDR
probe... :)


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Pentafoil Molecule
Date: 11 Nov 2011 03:09:38
Message: <4ebcd842$1@news.povray.org>
On 11-11-2011 5:39, nemesis wrote:
>
> Congrats, dude.  A very fine illustration for the new molecule.

Yes, congrats too! Excellent image. Apity it dod not make to the cover. 
Stupid editors ;-)

>
> Hah, we can always be amused to know the atom is reflecting a kitchen HDR
> probe... :)

LOL. Indeed! Indeed! Micro- and macroworld coming together. And all 
these scientists commenting the image will be totally unaware of it.

Thomas


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From: Karl Anders
Subject: Re: Pentafoil Molecule
Date: 11 Nov 2011 03:40:01
Message: <web.4ebcde59efed49b42fe10e660@news.povray.org>
Great picture!
Great chemistry!

..... and congrats to being published in an important place (again) :-)

Have a nice weekend
Karl


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From: Robert McGregor
Subject: Re: Pentafoil Molecule
Date: 11 Nov 2011 17:05:01
Message: <web.4ebd9b18efed49b494d713cc0@news.povray.org>
"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Congrats, dude.  A very fine illustration for the new molecule.
>
> Hah, we can always be amused to know the atom is reflecting a kitchen HDR
> probe... :)

Thanks, and yes, that is rather amusing!

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From: Robert McGregor
Subject: Re: Pentafoil Molecule
Date: 11 Nov 2011 17:15:00
Message: <web.4ebd9d61efed49b494d713cc0@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tenDOTlnDOTretniATtoorgedDOTt> wrote:
> On 11-11-2011 5:39, nemesis wrote:
> >
> > Congrats, dude.  A very fine illustration for the new molecule.
>
> Yes, congrats too! Excellent image. Apity it dod not make to the cover.
> Stupid editors ;-)
>
> >
> > Hah, we can always be amused to know the atom is reflecting a kitchen HDR
> > probe... :)
>
> LOL. Indeed! Indeed! Micro- and macroworld coming together. And all
> these scientists commenting the image will be totally unaware of it.
>
> Thomas

Thanks Thomas! The irony of the cover image is that the magazine's art
guidelines specifically emphasize, several times, to keep the image concise and
simple, and so I did (even though that goes against my general aesthetic, as
you're well aware). I was informed last week that the image was "too simple" and
they wanted something "more interesting." Oh well...

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From: Robert McGregor
Subject: Re: Pentafoil Molecule
Date: 11 Nov 2011 17:15:01
Message: <web.4ebd9d91efed49b494d713cc0@news.povray.org>
"Karl Anders" <kar### [at] webde> wrote:
> Great picture!
> Great chemistry!
>
> ..... and congrats to being published in an important place (again) :-)
>
> Have a nice weekend
> Karl

Thanks very much Karl :)

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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Pentafoil Molecule
Date: 12 Nov 2011 03:39:10
Message: <4ebe30ae$1@news.povray.org>
On 11-11-2011 23:10, Robert McGregor wrote:
> Thanks Thomas! The irony of the cover image is that the magazine's art
> guidelines specifically emphasize, several times, to keep the image concise and
> simple, and so I did (even though that goes against my general aesthetic, as
> you're well aware). I was informed last week that the image was "too simple" and
> they wanted something "more interesting." Oh well...

They missed the clue indeed.

And they probably mean "more interesting" in a "scientific" way instead 
of "aesthetic". whatever they may mean by that however...

It is a difficult domain to combine both, especially on this topic. It 
is easier I think with pure math, archaeology or geology.

Thomas


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Pentafoil Molecule
Date: 13 Nov 2011 16:45:26
Message: <4EC03A74.1080403@gmail.com>
On 11-11-2011 23:10, Robert McGregor wrote:
> Thomas de Groot<tenDOTlnDOTretniATtoorgedDOTt>  wrote:
>> On 11-11-2011 5:39, nemesis wrote:
>>>
>>> Congrats, dude.  A very fine illustration for the new molecule.
>>
>> Yes, congrats too! Excellent image. Apity it dod not make to the cover.
>> Stupid editors ;-)
>>
>>>
>>> Hah, we can always be amused to know the atom is reflecting a kitchen HDR
>>> probe... :)
>>
>> LOL. Indeed! Indeed! Micro- and macroworld coming together. And all
>> these scientists commenting the image will be totally unaware of it.
>>
>> Thomas
>
> Thanks Thomas! The irony of the cover image is that the magazine's art
> guidelines specifically emphasize, several times, to keep the image concise and
> simple, and so I did (even though that goes against my general aesthetic, as
> you're well aware). I was informed last week that the image was "too simple" and
> they wanted something "more interesting." Oh well...

There are more ways than one for something to be interesting. Two are 
important here. One is where you can see in one glance that something is 
happening. The other is when you look at something and decide that you 
understand what is going and then suddenly realize that something is not 
as you expected. The guy that decides on the cover goes for the first 
and probably has not enough background to understand that it is a case 
of the latter.
That way the journal missed a opportunity to create a coffee table 
discussion piece.



-- 
Apparently you can afford your own dictator for less than 10 cents per 
citizen per day.


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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: Pentafoil Molecule
Date: 13 Nov 2011 20:05:00
Message: <web.4ec06896efed49b4c734aecd0@news.povray.org>
"Robert McGregor" <rob### [at] mcgregorfineartcom> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I was recently asked, by research chemists at the University of Edinburgh (and
> their colleagues in Finland), to produce this rendering of their latest chemical
> marvel: the world's first designer molecule in the shape of a pentafoil knot.
> Their paper was published this week in the prestigious scientific journal Nature
> Chemistry, and this rendering was meant to be the magazine's cover shot.
> Unfortunately the magazine's art department had other ideas and this didn't make
> the cover after all. But, it did make it into New Scientist magazine as part of
> their interesting online (and hardcopy print) article:
>
>
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21132-single-molecule-ties-itself-into-famous-knot.html
>
> The university is also making large format prints of my render to showcase the
> molecule around campus and at various scientific conferences.
>
> Cheers,
> Rob
> -------------------------------------------------
> www.McGregorFineArt.com

Interesting. Good idea to use a HDR-probe with the metal texture.

I too had a little go at that molecule...

--
Tor Olav
http://subcube.com


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