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From: Rick Gutleber
Subject: Re: Rainy Day WIP
Date: 3 Dec 2009 11:08:53
Message: <4b17e295$1@news.povray.org>
Nice job so far... It's quite good as a finished piece already.  I think 
the simplicity of the scene is actually a plus.

The raindrops on the window are very convincing, although trails where 
the water is running down the window don't look right.  It's as if the 
IOR is too high, or maybe it's because the water trails are too thick.

The lighting in the sky is great and the outside details are really 
well-done.

Looks like the kind of day where you'd expect to see an old man leading 
a couple giraffes down the road muttering about not knowing what the 
heck a cubit is...

On 2009-12-02 18:56, s.day wrote:
> Someone asked me if I had ever done a rainy picture, this got me wondering how
> difficult it would be... I decided it would be easier if I kept my camera
> indoors though, didn't want it to get wet!
>
> I still have a lot to do to this image, textures on the window are very basic
> and I am planning on adding lots more stuff outside.
>
> There are no light sources just radiosity and a sky sphere to provide the
> illumination (does this sentence make this image on topic enough to submit it to
> the current TC-RTC?)
>
> Sean


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From: s day
Subject: Re: Rainy Day WIP
Date: 3 Dec 2009 19:45:00
Message: <web.4b185b7bedcf7d1edc7e9ed0@news.povray.org>
Rick Gutleber <ric### [at] hiscom> wrote:
> Nice job so far... It's quite good as a finished piece already.  I think
> the simplicity of the scene is actually a plus.
>
> The raindrops on the window are very convincing, although trails where
> the water is running down the window don't look right.  It's as if the
> IOR is too high, or maybe it's because the water trails are too thick.
>
> The lighting in the sky is great and the outside details are really
> well-done.
>
> Looks like the kind of day where you'd expect to see an old man leading
> a couple giraffes down the road muttering about not knowing what the
> heck a cubit is...
>

Thanks, I agree about the drops, they are created using a blob and in my tests
so far if I make them thinner the blob dissapears. I am going to work on this
some more and may remove some of them if I cannot fix it.

The sky was where this image started, I was trying different textures on a
sky_sphere and came up with something that looked like the sun trying to break
through a cloudy/rainy sky, I liked it so much I decided I needed to use it in a
scene.

Not sure what you mean about the giraffes, looks like a normal summer day in the
UK to me ;-)

Sean


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From: BitViper
Subject: Re: Rainy Day WIP
Date: 3 Dec 2009 20:18:04
Message: <4b18634c$1@news.povray.org>
s.day wrote:

> Not sure what you mean about the giraffes, looks like a normal summer day in the
> UK to me ;-)

The about the old man and the giraffes was probably before your time. 
Mine too for that matter. But I understand they suffered quite the 
storm. People are still looking for their boat today though. =)

bit


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From: joost 1972
Subject: Re: Rainy Day WIP
Date: 4 Dec 2009 13:00:00
Message: <web.4b194deeedcf7d1e2a36ae330@news.povray.org>
Very nice and it has a real rainy feel. Would be nice to see the trails affected
by the wind (at least, if thats a stormy sea i see outside the window)

Btw, can't you just scale down your blob to make it thinner? Or is that newbe
thinking?

Joost


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Rainy Day WIP
Date: 4 Dec 2009 13:45:05
Message: <4b1958b1$1@news.povray.org>

> Rick Gutleber <ric### [at] hiscom> wrote:
>> Nice job so far... It's quite good as a finished piece already.  I think
>> the simplicity of the scene is actually a plus.
>>
>> The raindrops on the window are very convincing, although trails where
>> the water is running down the window don't look right.  It's as if the
>> IOR is too high, or maybe it's because the water trails are too thick.
>>
>> The lighting in the sky is great and the outside details are really
>> well-done.
>>
>> Looks like the kind of day where you'd expect to see an old man leading
>> a couple giraffes down the road muttering about not knowing what the
>> heck a cubit is...
>>
> 
> Thanks, I agree about the drops, they are created using a blob and in my tests
> so far if I make them thinner the blob dissapears. I am going to work on this
> some more and may remove some of them if I cannot fix it.
> 
> The sky was where this image started, I was trying different textures on a
> sky_sphere and came up with something that looked like the sun trying to break
> through a cloudy/rainy sky, I liked it so much I decided I needed to use it in a
> scene.
> 
> Not sure what you mean about the giraffes, looks like a normal summer day in the
> UK to me ;-)
> 
> Sean
> 
> 
You can try scaling those blob's components to make then thinner.



Alain


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Rainy Day WIP
Date: 4 Dec 2009 14:15:49
Message: <4b195fe5@news.povray.org>
Alain wrote:

>> Rick Gutleber <ric### [at] hiscom> wrote:
>>> Nice job so far... It's quite good as a finished piece already.  I think
>>> the simplicity of the scene is actually a plus.
>>>
>>> The raindrops on the window are very convincing, although trails where
>>> the water is running down the window don't look right.  It's as if the
>>> IOR is too high, or maybe it's because the water trails are too thick.
>>>
>>> The lighting in the sky is great and the outside details are really
>>> well-done.
>>>
>>> Looks like the kind of day where you'd expect to see an old man leading
>>> a couple giraffes down the road muttering about not knowing what the
>>> heck a cubit is...
>>>
>>
>> Thanks, I agree about the drops, they are created using a blob and in 
>> my tests
>> so far if I make them thinner the blob dissapears. I am going to work 
>> on this
>> some more and may remove some of them if I cannot fix it.
>>
>> The sky was where this image started, I was trying different textures 
>> on a
>> sky_sphere and came up with something that looked like the sun trying 
>> to break
>> through a cloudy/rainy sky, I liked it so much I decided I needed to 
>> use it in a
>> scene.
>>
>> Not sure what you mean about the giraffes, looks like a normal summer 
>> day in the
>> UK to me ;-)
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
> You can try scaling those blob's components to make then thinner.
> 
> 
> 
> Alain


thicker as the drop moves downwards.

-- 

Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: s day
Subject: Re: Rainy Day WIP
Date: 4 Dec 2009 19:40:00
Message: <web.4b19aac6edcf7d1efdd3b49e0@news.povray.org>
"joost_1972" <joo### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Very nice and it has a real rainy feel. Would be nice to see the trails affected
> by the wind (at least, if thats a stormy sea i see outside the window)
>
> Btw, can't you just scale down your blob to make it thinner? Or is that newbe
> thinking?
>
> Joost

Good point about the wind affecting the trails, I had just made this random but
will re-visit this now.

I have tried scaling (not put that much effort in so far though) and the blobs
seem to just disappear when I make them thinner. I will find the thinnest
setting I can get away with and keep them visible. Of course it could be because
I am scaling each component rather than the whole blob which would probably make
a difference...

Thanks,

Sean


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From: s day
Subject: Re: Rainy Day WIP
Date: 4 Dec 2009 19:40:00
Message: <web.4b19ab75edcf7d1efdd3b49e0@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mca### [at] aolDOTcom> wrote:
>

> thicker as the drop moves downwards.
>
> --
>
> Best Regards,
>  Stephen

Yes, currently my trails are all one thickness but they should get thicker as
they get nearer the droplet, I need to put some more thought into how I create
these.

Thanks,

Sean


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Rainy Day WIP
Date: 5 Dec 2009 02:07:03
Message: <4b1a0697$1@news.povray.org>
s.day wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolDOTcom> wrote:

>> thicker as the drop moves downwards.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>  Stephen
> 
> Yes, currently my trails are all one thickness but they should get thicker as
> they get nearer the droplet, I need to put some more thought into how I create
> these.
> 




-- 

Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Rainy Day WIP
Date: 5 Dec 2009 03:49:50
Message: <4b1a1eae@news.povray.org>
"s.day" <s.d### [at] uelacuk> schreef in bericht 
news:web.4b19aac6edcf7d1efdd3b49e0@news.povray.org...
>
> I have tried scaling (not put that much effort in so far though) and the 
> blobs
> seem to just disappear when I make them thinner. I will find the thinnest
> setting I can get away with and keep them visible. Of course it could be 
> because
> I am scaling each component rather than the whole blob which would 
> probably make
> a difference...
>
I think scaling the whole blob will do the trick. What you also can do I 
guess, is cut off the part of the blob lying against the pane, in a 
difference or intersection. Your blob becomes thinner too that way and you 
simulate the *stickyness* of the water drop on the glass surface.

Thomas


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