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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Facing the inevitable - Facing-the-inevitable.jpg
Date: 19 Nov 2002 15:43:09
Message: <3DDAA25C.7A140809@gmx.de>
Peter Popov wrote:
> 
> 
> >- a version with HDR image based illumination
> 
> Rendering with radiosity as we speak, should be ready by tomorrow I
> hope. As of HDR, how do I use it in POV?

MLPov has support for it.  I did not yet see a HDR image with that kind of
illuminated window though.

> >- animate it...
> 
> Got a render farm at your disposal? :)

I would accept a reduced quality for that purpose...

Christoph

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From: Tom Galvin
Subject: Re: Facing the inevitable - Facing-the-inevitable.jpg
Date: 19 Nov 2002 15:56:40
Message: <Xns92CBA2288C4B6tomatimporg@204.213.191.226>
Peter Popov <pet### [at] vipbg> wrote in 
news:ud8ltucmob2e86aq1bvkhvkl97b56tkivi@4ax.com:

> On 19 Nov 2002 15:26:32 -0500, Tom Galvin <tom### [at] imporg> wrote:
> 
>>Now My wallpaper too! But even better would be Zazzle...
> 
> Thanks, Tom, but don't you think it would pose quite major legal
> problems if I put this up at Zazzle?
> 

I don't know.  Artists have used legally used trademarks without permission 
before.  Andy Warhol is an example.  It depends on how it is used and the 
laws of the countries involved.  

This is art.  It makes a socially relevant comment.  Here in the US you 
would be protected by the first amendment to our consititution.  

http://www.phillaw.com/html/trademarks.html


I would say that even if there was a legal issue, the companies would not 
be likley to pursue action if the legal fees exceed the amount recoverable.  
However this poster might be a zazzle bestseller :)

Tom


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From: Tom Galvin
Subject: Re: Facing the inevitable - Facing-the-inevitable.jpg
Date: 19 Nov 2002 15:59:16
Message: <Xns92CBA299192D4tomatimporg@204.213.191.226>
Peter Popov <pet### [at] vipbg> wrote in news:eq6ltucigq6ohgdmoitqbvakl4928nsbq7
@4ax.com:
>>- animate it...
> 
> Got a render farm at your disposal? :)
> 
> 

IMPfarm


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Facing the inevitable - Facing-the-inevitable.jpg
Date: 19 Nov 2002 16:34:50
Message: <m8bltuo8ua8pkbsf91ipcmoj8dro8kpaug@4ax.com>
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 21:43:08 +0100, Christoph Hormann
<chr### [at] gmxde> wrote:

>MLPov has support for it.  I did not yet see a HDR image with that kind of
>illuminated window though.

Come on, the window is just there for the reflection. As it is well
seen by the reflections, the window is not vertical but is facing the
balls - to give those familiar reflections. The lighting itself comes
from a 20x20 area light :)

>> >- animate it...
>> Got a render farm at your disposal? :)
>I would accept a reduced quality for that purpose...

If you can work out the maths, I'd gladly have the thing animated even
if it takes a month to render. Be sure to include angular momentum in
the calculations, because I *always* take the first shot with a
bottom-left english, starting 10 inches to the right of the cue
position and aiming slightly to the right of the center of the 1 ball,
so that the cue ball goes in the far right corner pocket. There's the
deal - I provide the imagery, you provide the maths, and we get rich
and famous and go to Hamburg, this time not missing the Repperbahn :)


Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] vipbg
TAG      e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg


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From: GrimDude
Subject: Re: Facing the inevitable - Facing-the-inevitable.jpg
Date: 19 Nov 2002 17:14:37
Message: <3ddab7cd$1@news.povray.org>
Beautiful! I would love to see a 1280x1024 rendering.

Grim

Peter Popov wrote:
> Thought I might as well throw an idea into it - and one that might get
> me in trouble, too :)
>
> Enjoy, I hope it turned out well. Comments and criticisms welcome, as
> always.
>
>
> Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
> Personal e-mail : pet### [at] vipbg
> TAG      e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg


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From: JPGargoyle
Subject: Re: Facing the inevitable - What was missing in this pic :) - [>91k]
Date: 19 Nov 2002 17:28:29
Message: <3ddabb0d@news.povray.org>
Well Peter, I couldn't resist on doing this.

I hope you can forguive me, but following your pictures idea I created this
one, with the elements that you "forgot" to include in yours. ;D

I know the textures are terrible (except for your cool table cloth texture)
and the proportions are not accurate, but .... well, this is just a joke :)

Nice work.



Best regards.


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Facing the inevitable - What was missing in this pic :) - [>91k]
Date: 19 Nov 2002 17:36:12
Message: <r1fltu84aqr65tm41e23usr3ekct253qt2@4ax.com>
LOL :)

The way I read it, the POV Team drives POV, supported by the users and
(regardless of what amateurs would claim), relies on beta testers to
give it just the right direction and perfection of aim.

*shameless plug*

What bugs me is that I don't see the TAG anywhere.


Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] vipbg
TAG      e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg


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From: Troy S  Ristow
Subject: Re: Facing the inevitable - Facing-the-inevitable.jpg
Date: 19 Nov 2002 17:48:11
Message: <3ddabfab$1@news.povray.org>
"Peter Popov" <pet### [at] vipbg> wrote in message
news:0ahktu8dp2i36gf687to1mrjiacbv6m7k9@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:49:44 -0500, "paul jones" <pdj### [at] psuedu> wrote:
>
> Nothing personal has been put into the placement of the balls. It's
> just that Blender's logo is virtually the same orange they use for the
> 1 ball, and that one should always be in the front. That's why Messiah
> is in the far left corner, for example - their purple matches the 12
> ball purple perfectly.
>

Actually, the one-ball is yellow and the five-ball is that shade of orange.
Incidentally, most of the current rule systems for 8-ball (that is what you
were going for with the triangle-shaped rack, right?) do not require the
one-ball to be in front, only that the eight-ball is in the center.  Perhaps
you were thinking of 9-ball with the diamond-shaped rack, where the only
requirement is that the one-ball is up front.

--- Troy S. Ristow


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From: JPGargoyle
Subject: Re: Facing the inevitable - What was missing in this pic :) - [>91k]
Date: 19 Nov 2002 18:12:40
Message: <3ddac568@news.povray.org>
"Peter Popov" <pet### [at] vipbg> wrote in message
news:r1fltu84aqr65tm41e23usr3ekct253qt2@4ax.com...
> The way I read it, the POV Team drives POV, supported by the users and
> (regardless of what amateurs would claim), relies on beta testers to
> give it just the right direction and perfection of aim.

Cool! You got the idea! I was affraid nobody would get it (I might have not
been able to send the message) but you did :))

I've had some second thoughts about the beta testers (because they are all
pov users ) but decided to include them anyway (priceless people).

> *shameless plug*
>
> What bugs me is that I don't see the TAG anywhere.

LOOOOOOOOOL.

I have to be honest. I completelly forgot about TAG, but I wouldn't know how
to include them too :))



Best regards.


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From: Tom Galvin
Subject: Re: Facing the inevitable - What was missing in this pic :) - [>91k]
Date: 19 Nov 2002 18:34:41
Message: <Xns92CBBCF17C231tomatimporg@204.213.191.226>
"JPGargoyle" <jot### [at] netcabopt> wrote in
news:3ddac568@news.povray.org: 


> I have to be honest. I completelly forgot about TAG, but I wouldn't
> know how to include them too :))
> 
> 
> 

The Rack


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