hi,

Ash Holsenback <no### [at] spamcom> wrote:
> On 12/7/20 8:57 AM, jr wrote:
> > Ash Holsenback <no### [at] spamcom> wrote:
> >> On 12/3/20 11:27 AM, Ash Holsenback wrote:
> >> zen gnome sitting on a stack of oreo's ... ohmmmmm
> >
> > electric..  ;-)  (do non-black Oreos exist?)
>
> haha... i see you couldn't /resist/ance.

would have been futile, due to pending assimilation.  :-)

> ...
> > like the new plinth.  had hoped that, after you mentioned Aladdin's lamp,
> > there'd be smoke issuing from the spout with the outline of the genie emerging...
>
> i already explored the smoke idea...problematic. i think diff hdr probe
> and lighting would give better results.

I'd been thinking (naively) that TdG's recent cloud/smoke generating code could
be used (though I've not played with it (yet)), and an image[*] of the genie
"embedded" in the same volume; did a quick image search on 'Aladdin genie',
plenty to choose from.

[*] converted to a DF3, or set of.

have only a (very) vague idea of the hdr/lighting stuff, will need to read up.

> rather spend time working out
> the (gnome) uv mapping in blender... i want to detail him out.

what's with the little hole in its chest?  shot?  :-)


regards, jr.

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Op 07/12/2020 om 21:56 schreef jr:
> hi,
> 
> Ash Holsenback <no### [at] spamcom> wrote:
[snip]

>>> like the new plinth.  had hoped that, after you mentioned Aladdin's lamp,
>>> there'd be smoke issuing from the spout with the outline of the genie emerging...
>>
>> i already explored the smoke idea...problematic. i think diff hdr probe
>> and lighting would give better results.
> 
> I'd been thinking (naively) that TdG's recent cloud/smoke generating code could
> be used (though I've not played with it (yet)), and an image[*] of the genie
> "embedded" in the same volume; did a quick image search on 'Aladdin genie',
> plenty to choose from.
> 
> [*] converted to a DF3, or set of.
> 

Cannot refrain from commenting :-)
It would be an interesting way to explore. Traditionally, one would try 
to use e.g. Michael Carneholm's SmokeGen, especially with the spout as 
origin. However, a drawback is the multiple use of intersecting 
containers needed. I have played with the idea of a single container for 
a smoke column but without real results atm.

-- 
Thomas

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Ash Holsenback <no### [at] spamcom> wrote:
> On 12/3/20 11:27 AM, Ash Holsenback wrote:
> > i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...
>
> zen gnome sitting on a stack of oreo's ... ohmmmmm

Hi,
I like the idea. There is a scale problem:  the oreos are much too big for the
teapot and dwarf too small for a garden (though dwarf scale can be flexible
depending on what you want to convey and degree of realism you go for).

If you want more visual realism, since I would expect the dwarf to be bigger
than oreo, then I would rest the oreos upon his head rather than have him
sitting on them.  This would require having that teapot and dwarf+oreo at
different distances from camera so they can all be readable : so The dwarf in
the forground and viewed slightly from above to preserve him from too much depth
of field blurring and keep oreo more meaningfull.

Thus the pedestal probably needs to widen and host all of them and why not some
initial container at its foot to tell a story... (indiana jones leather satchel
/Dora the explorer's bag?/...?) so that all these so different objects don't
lack a reason to belong to the same universe. If no reason other than artistic
license, then maybe they would need to be placed in a way that either asks or
solves some kind of riddle... What do you think?

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> hi,
> 
> Ash Holsenback <no### [at] spamcom> wrote:
>> On 12/3/20 11:27 AM, Ash Holsenback wrote:
>>> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...
>>
>> zen gnome sitting on a stack of oreo's ... ohmmmmm
> 
> electric..  ;-)  (do non-black Oreos exist?)

Yes, those do exist. It's just that they are not available everywhere, 
and, in some places, not all of the time.

> 
> like the new plinth.  had hoped that, after you mentioned Aladdin's lamp,
> there'd be smoke issuing from the spout with the outline of the genie emerging
> -- in Disney blue!
> 
> 
> regards, jr.
> 

If that's a pure radiosity scene, then, scattering media won't work 
properly as it can't get illuminated by the radiosity.
That leave you with a clumsy mix of emissive and absorbing medias.

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> Ash Holsenback <no### [at] spamcom> wrote:
>> On 12/3/20 11:27 AM, Ash Holsenback wrote:
>>> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...
>>
>> zen gnome sitting on a stack of oreo's ... ohmmmmm
> 
> Hi,
> I like the idea. There is a scale problem:  the oreos are much too big for the
> teapot and dwarf too small for a garden (though dwarf scale can be flexible
> depending on what you want to convey and degree of realism you go for).
> 

Those are Jumbo Oreos.

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On 12/8/20 12:51 PM, Alain Martel wrote:

>> Ash Holsenback <no### [at] spamcom> wrote:
>>> On 12/3/20 11:27 AM, Ash Holsenback wrote:
>>>> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...
>>>
>>> zen gnome sitting on a stack of oreo's ... ohmmmmm
>>
>> Hi,

>> for the
>> teapot and dwarf too small for a garden (though dwarf scale can be 
>> flexible
>> depending on what you want to convey and degree of realism you go for).
>>
> 
> Those are Jumbo Oreos.

exactly... the odd scaling is on purpose

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Ash Holsenback <no### [at] spamcom> wrote:
> On 12/8/20 12:51 PM, Alain Martel wrote:

> > Those are Jumbo Oreos.
>
> exactly... the odd scaling is on purpose

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/news/commercial/2018/5/an-oreo-biscuit-weighing-73-kg-has-been-made-and-it-looks-m
outh-wateringly-good

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Ash Holsenback wrote on 07/12/2020 12:57:
> On 12/3/20 11:27 AM, Ash Holsenback wrote:
>> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...
> 
> zen gnome sitting on a stack of oreo's ... ohmmmmm
A beautiful image and the gnome is... yummy!

Paolo

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Ash Holsenback <no### [at] spamcom> wrote:
> On 12/8/20 12:51 PM, Alain Martel wrote:

> >> Ash Holsenback <no### [at] spamcom> wrote:
> >>> On 12/3/20 11:27 AM, Ash Holsenback wrote:
> >>>> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...
> >>>
> >>> zen gnome sitting on a stack of oreo's ... ohmmmmm
> >>
> >> Hi,

> >> for the
> >> teapot and dwarf too small for a garden (though dwarf scale can be
> >> flexible
> >> depending on what you want to convey and degree of realism you go for).
> >>
> >
> > Those are Jumbo Oreos.
>
> exactly... the odd scaling is on purpose

Interesting. This seems to lean towards surrealism :-) ... Then smoke is needed
indeed !

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On 12/7/20 6:57 AM, Ash Holsenback wrote:
> On 12/3/20 11:27 AM, Ash Holsenback wrote:
>> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...
> 
> zen gnome sitting on a stack of oreo's ... ohmmmmm

well i settled for something more real than sur... also ditched the 
radiosity. pulled this one off with a point light that tracks the 
hot-spot you see in the lamp. the fill light is a shadowless spot the 
same color as the greenery. i wish blender would quit changing their 
ui...i'll have to get better before i can detail out the gnome

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