Am 10.09.2018 um 12:38 schrieb Stephen:
> On 09/09/2018 21:30, MichaelJF wrote:
>> Hi to the crowd,
>>
>> as Windows 10 delivers us with unwanted images, most of them very nice 
>> but only placed to gain information about the preferences of the 
>> users, I was inspired by one of them, titeled "Wooden Footpath in 
>> Dense Jungle" 
>> (https://spotlight.it-notes.ru/images/007ba85b9d0702c81be02247e0143179).
>>
>> So I came up with the following idea, having had an old song by Bob 
>> Marley in mind. It is still a WIP at the moment (some textures have to 
>> be replaced and I think about some better trees in the foreground 
>> having roots and being covered with ivy). But as a first impression 
>> this one can serve.
>>
>> Suggestions are very welcome.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Michael
> 
> 
> Hi Michael, I really like this.
> The composition is good and the contrast of the red dress with the 
> general lightness is effective. I like the sky, it is under stated and 
> goes well with the texture of the vegetation.
> The wooden footpath bothers me, though. Too high and thick. The texture 
> shows a pattern looking into the depth.
> But it looks like a future desktop wallpaper. :)
> 

Thank you Stephen, and yes the footpath needs some more work. Most 
likely I will give Chris Hormann's isowood a try again. Looking at the 
image after some days now, I think one more detailed tree to the right 
should suffice to preserve the open area in the foreground. And I will 
try to modify the concrete texture at the stems to gain a more bark like 
structure. The only thing I'm not sure about at the moment, is to put 
some kind of structure at the end of the footpath (two towers, menhirs 
or something like that).

Best regards
Michael

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On 11-9-2018 22:44, MichaelJF wrote:
> Am 10.09.2018 um 12:38 schrieb Stephen:
>> On 09/09/2018 21:30, MichaelJF wrote:
>>> Hi to the crowd,
>>>
>>> as Windows 10 delivers us with unwanted images, most of them very 
>>> nice but only placed to gain information about the preferences of the 
>>> users, I was inspired by one of them, titeled "Wooden Footpath in 
>>> Dense Jungle" 
>>> (https://spotlight.it-notes.ru/images/007ba85b9d0702c81be02247e0143179).
>>>
>>> So I came up with the following idea, having had an old song by Bob 
>>> Marley in mind. It is still a WIP at the moment (some textures have 
>>> to be replaced and I think about some better trees in the foreground 
>>> having roots and being covered with ivy). But as a first impression 
>>> this one can serve.
>>>
>>> Suggestions are very welcome.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Michael
>>
>>
>> Hi Michael, I really like this.
>> The composition is good and the contrast of the red dress with the 
>> general lightness is effective. I like the sky, it is under stated and 
>> goes well with the texture of the vegetation.
>> The wooden footpath bothers me, though. Too high and thick. The 
>> texture shows a pattern looking into the depth.
>> But it looks like a future desktop wallpaper. :)
>>
> 
> Thank you Stephen, and yes the footpath needs some more work. Most 
> likely I will give Chris Hormann's isowood a try again. Looking at the 
> image after some days now, I think one more detailed tree to the right 
> should suffice to preserve the open area in the foreground. And I will 
> try to modify the concrete texture at the stems to gain a more bark like 
> structure. The only thing I'm not sure about at the moment, is to put 
> some kind of structure at the end of the footpath (two towers, menhirs 
> or something like that).
> 

Imho, You should leave the background open at the end of the footpath, 
like now. Structures would distract the viewer unnecessarily.

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On 12/09/2018 08:31, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 11-9-2018 22:44, MichaelJF wrote:
>> Am 10.09.2018 um 12:38 schrieb Stephen:
>>> On 09/09/2018 21:30, MichaelJF wrote:
>>>> Hi to the crowd,
>>>>
>>>> as Windows 10 delivers us with unwanted images, most of them very 
>>>> nice but only placed to gain information about the preferences of 
>>>> the users, I was inspired by one of them, titeled "Wooden Footpath 
>>>> in Dense Jungle" 
>>>> (https://spotlight.it-notes.ru/images/007ba85b9d0702c81be02247e0143179). 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So I came up with the following idea, having had an old song by Bob 
>>>> Marley in mind. It is still a WIP at the moment (some textures have 
>>>> to be replaced and I think about some better trees in the foreground 
>>>> having roots and being covered with ivy). But as a first impression 
>>>> this one can serve.
>>>>
>>>> Suggestions are very welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Michael, I really like this.
>>> The composition is good and the contrast of the red dress with the 
>>> general lightness is effective. I like the sky, it is under stated 
>>> and goes well with the texture of the vegetation.
>>> The wooden footpath bothers me, though. Too high and thick. The 
>>> texture shows a pattern looking into the depth.
>>> But it looks like a future desktop wallpaper. :)
>>>
>>
>> Thank you Stephen, and yes the footpath needs some more work. Most 
>> likely I will give Chris Hormann's isowood a try again. Looking at the 
>> image after some days now, I think one more detailed tree to the right 
>> should suffice to preserve the open area in the foreground. And I will 
>> try to modify the concrete texture at the stems to gain a more bark 
>> like structure. The only thing I'm not sure about at the moment, is to 
>> put some kind of structure at the end of the footpath (two towers, 
>> menhirs or something like that).
>>
> 
> Imho, You should leave the background open at the end of the footpath, 
> like now. Structures would distract the viewer unnecessarily.
> 

I don’t know but I think it would be worth experimenting using standing 
stones. It might add to the feyness of the scene. On the other hand it 
might ruin it as you say. It might draw attention to the path and make 
it the focus. I think it would be an option to consider.

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     Stephen

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Le 18-09-12 à 06:14, Stephen a écrit :
> On 12/09/2018 08:31, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 11-9-2018 22:44, MichaelJF wrote:
>>> Am 10.09.2018 um 12:38 schrieb Stephen:
>>>> On 09/09/2018 21:30, MichaelJF wrote:
>>>>> Hi to the crowd,
>>>>>
>>>>> as Windows 10 delivers us with unwanted images, most of them very 
>>>>> nice but only placed to gain information about the preferences of 
>>>>> the users, I was inspired by one of them, titeled "Wooden Footpath 
>>>>> in Dense Jungle" 
>>>>> (https://spotlight.it-notes.ru/images/007ba85b9d0702c81be02247e0143179). 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So I came up with the following idea, having had an old song by Bob 
>>>>> Marley in mind. It is still a WIP at the moment (some textures have 
>>>>> to be replaced and I think about some better trees in the 
>>>>> foreground having roots and being covered with ivy). But as a first 
>>>>> impression this one can serve.
>>>>>
>>>>> Suggestions are very welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Michael, I really like this.
>>>> The composition is good and the contrast of the red dress with the 
>>>> general lightness is effective. I like the sky, it is under stated 
>>>> and goes well with the texture of the vegetation.
>>>> The wooden footpath bothers me, though. Too high and thick. The 
>>>> texture shows a pattern looking into the depth.
>>>> But it looks like a future desktop wallpaper. :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you Stephen, and yes the footpath needs some more work. Most 
>>> likely I will give Chris Hormann's isowood a try again. Looking at 
>>> the image after some days now, I think one more detailed tree to the 
>>> right should suffice to preserve the open area in the foreground. And 
>>> I will try to modify the concrete texture at the stems to gain a more 
>>> bark like structure. The only thing I'm not sure about at the moment, 
>>> is to put some kind of structure at the end of the footpath (two 
>>> towers, menhirs or something like that).
>>>
>>
>> Imho, You should leave the background open at the end of the footpath, 
>> like now. Structures would distract the viewer unnecessarily.
>>
> 
> I don’t know but I think it would be worth experimenting using standing 
> stones. It might add to the feyness of the scene. On the other hand it 
> might ruin it as you say. It might draw attention to the path and make 
> it the focus. I think it would be an option to consider.
> 

If any structure is added, like standing stones, I'd place some distance 
from the path and partially obscured by the trees.

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On 11-9-2018 8:48, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 11-9-2018 1:35, Alain wrote:
>> How much RAM do you have ? How many other applications running ?
>> Thunderbird V52.9.1 under Windows 7 (32 bits) and 2 Gb of RAM = No 
>> problem loading.
> 
> Until recently I did not have any problems. However, since a couple of 
> months (I think since July) loading messages is a pain especially when 
> images of a certain size are involved.
> 
> Using Thunderbird v52.9.1 under Win7-64 bit 6 GB RAM.
> 

Investigating, but I think I tracked the offender... Waiting to take him 
red-handed. :-)

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Great idea, your scene!

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Am 09.09.2018 um 22:30 schrieb MichaelJF:
Hi to the crowd,

thank you all for the suggestions. I will consider them all. At the 
moment I have only changed the textures to the trunks of the high palms 
and the ferns to have them more palm like and not so white (and more 
concrete like) respectively. I think I will leave the leafes of the 
palms as white as they are. But I have little spare time to work at the 
project at the moment only.

Next steps: Getting a dents structure to the trunks of the fan palms and 
isowood for the path.

Intended: Adding a buttress rooted tree in the foreground to the right, 
test for some structure at the end of the path, SSLT for the skin.

Best regards
Michael

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Am 17.09.2018 um 20:33 schrieb MichaelJF:

> Intended: Adding a buttress rooted tree in the foreground to the right,
> test for some structure at the end of the path, SSLT for the skin.

Won't make much of a difference at that distance.

It will have an effect on how diffuse behaves at glancing angles, which
might make a difference, but in v3.8.0-alpha versions of POV-Ray you can
also achieve that effect by specifying `fresnel on` at the finish level.

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On 17-9-2018 20:33, MichaelJF wrote:
> Am 09.09.2018 um 22:30 schrieb MichaelJF:
> Hi to the crowd,
> 
> thank you all for the suggestions. I will consider them all. At the 
> moment I have only changed the textures to the trunks of the high palms 
> and the ferns to have them more palm like and not so white (and more 
> concrete like) respectively. I think I will leave the leafes of the 
> palms as white as they are. But I have little spare time to work at the 
> project at the moment only.
> 
> Next steps: Getting a dents structure to the trunks of the fan palms and 
> isowood for the path.
> 
> Intended: Adding a buttress rooted tree in the foreground to the right, 
> test for some structure at the end of the path, SSLT for the skin.
> 
> Best regards
> Michael

Fascinating. It makes me want to explore some aspects of Area X from 
Jeff Vandermeer's Southern Reach trilogy.

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Am 17.09.2018 um 21:52 schrieb clipka:
> Am 17.09.2018 um 20:33 schrieb MichaelJF:
> 
>> Intended: Adding a buttress rooted tree in the foreground to the right,
>> test for some structure at the end of the path, SSLT for the skin.
> 
> Won't make much of a difference at that distance.
> 
> It will have an effect on how diffuse behaves at glancing angles, which
> might make a difference, but in v3.8.0-alpha versions of POV-Ray you can
> also achieve that effect by specifying `fresnel on` at the finish level.
> 
I assume you address the SSLT issue. Yes, the gain will be small most 
likely, and may be not recognisable. But a try will not cause any harm.

Best regards
Michael

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