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I suggest some music by Jan Sibelius.

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Thomas

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Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
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> I suggest some music by Jan Sibelius.
>
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> Thomas

Wow -
That's coming along beautifully, Thomas - it's beginning to look positively
photographic!


My initial impression though, was that it was --- less than 3D - almost a 2D
billboard.
I think that's largely due to the nearly identical hue of the light in the
windows and the sky behind the house.  It gives a strong impression that I'm
looking through a flat cardboard cutout.  I didn't get a sense that there were
interior rooms with a separate volume.  No far walls.

With regard to the stone archway[s] - perhaps if you could swing your camera
around -y a bit, so that the base of the tower was partially visible through the
lit archway, it would give a much stronger sense of depth.
Also, if there's a way to accentuate the shadow of the other arch, that seems
like it would help a bit as well.

I'm not sure how much you've investigated the lighting from the sunset, but if
it were a few minutes earlier, with the last faint rays of light coming across
the landscape toward the camera - and illuminating the underside of the clouds,
I think that would provide a fantastic contrast and interplay of light and
shadow.

I know you've been at it for a long time, and I'm just making some suggestions
to help you show off that work in all its splendor.

:)

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On 1-11-2017 12:53, Bald Eagle wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>> [wip]
>>
>> I suggest some music by Jan Sibelius.
>>
>> --
>> Thomas
> 
> Wow -
> That's coming along beautifully, Thomas - it's beginning to look positively
> photographic!

Thanks indeed! I concentrated a bit on the sky these last couple of days 
and I am rather pleased with the result. More to come of course where 
the landscape itself is concerned. Funny, your mentioning of billboards 
below: I intend to use them for trees. I first test looks promising.

> 
> 
> My initial impression though, was that it was --- less than 3D - almost a 2D
> billboard.
> I think that's largely due to the nearly identical hue of the light in the
> windows and the sky behind the house.  It gives a strong impression that I'm
> looking through a flat cardboard cutout.  I didn't get a sense that there were
> interior rooms with a separate volume.  No far walls.

I agree with you and I am not too happy with the present state of the 
windows. Obviously, I need to concentrate some efforts on the invisible 
background (I have some ideas about that) but maybe also decrease the 
reflection from the window panes.

> 
> With regard to the stone archway[s] - perhaps if you could swing your camera
> around -y a bit, so that the base of the tower was partially visible through the
> lit archway, it would give a much stronger sense of depth.
> Also, if there's a way to accentuate the shadow of the other arch, that seems
> like it would help a bit as well.

Hmm... I have to see what can be done. The present geometry is rather 
delicately balanced with the foreground an integral part of the house 
mesh (through the access road).

> 
> I'm not sure how much you've investigated the lighting from the sunset, but if
> it were a few minutes earlier, with the last faint rays of light coming across
> the landscape toward the camera - and illuminating the underside of the clouds,
> I think that would provide a fantastic contrast and interplay of light and
> shadow.

Just a question of playing with the altitude angle of the Sun. ;-)

The sunbeams indicate that the Sun is still a bit too high for 
illuminating the undersides of the clouds, so I guess the time should be 
a few minutes later. I shall experiment.

> 
> I know you've been at it for a long time, and I'm just making some suggestions
> to help you show off that work in all its splendor.
> 

I am glad with the comments though and will always appreciate them. The 
irony (for me at least) is that I am spending months in an absurdly and 
painstakingly detailed modelling of a house, and then use it in a scene 
where all those details are virtually invisible! Oh well, the 
satisfaction is in the buckets of sweat produced. :-)

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Thomas

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On 11/01/2017 08:33 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:

> 
>  The 
> irony (for me at least) is that I am spending months in an absurdly and 
> painstakingly detailed modelling of a house, and then use it in a scene 
> where all those details are virtually invisible! 
Ha. That's de rigueur.

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dik

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On 1-11-2017 14:35, dick balaska wrote:
> On 11/01/2017 08:33 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> 
>>

>> absurdly and painstakingly detailed modelling of a house, and then use 
>> it in a scene where all those details are virtually invisible! 
> Ha. That's de rigueur.
> 

Of course! ;-)

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Thomas

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On 01/11/2017 08:04, Thomas de Groot wrote:
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Brrr! It's cold outside.


> I suggest some music by Jan Sibelius.
> 

It's got to be Finlandia, then. ;-)
The video below has some nice images.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5zg_af9b8c



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     Stephen

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Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> On 01/11/2017 08:04, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> > [wip]
> >
>
> Brrr! It's cold outside.
>
>
> > I suggest some music by Jan Sibelius.
> >
>
> It's got to be Finlandia, then. ;-)
> The video below has some nice images.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5zg_af9b8c
>
>
>
> --
>
> Regards
>      Stephen

I got this video when I searched Jan Sibelius, too.

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On 02/11/2017 10:08, And wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>> On 01/11/2017 08:04, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> [wip]
>>>
>>
>> Brrr! It's cold outside.
>>
>>
>>> I suggest some music by Jan Sibelius.
>>>
>>
>> It's got to be Finlandia, then. ;-)
>> The video below has some nice images.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5zg_af9b8c
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards
>>       Stephen
> 
> I got this video when I searched Jan Sibelius, too.
> 

I thought that there could have been a bit more specular mapping over 
the sea in the opening sequence. :-)

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Regards
     Stephen

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On 2-11-2017 11:35, Stephen wrote:
> On 02/11/2017 10:08, And wrote:
>> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>>> On 01/11/2017 08:04, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>> [wip]
>>>>
>>>
>>> Brrr! It's cold outside.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I suggest some music by Jan Sibelius.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's got to be Finlandia, then. ;-)
>>> The video below has some nice images.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5zg_af9b8c

Yes, that would be the first indeed. I like his other music too though.

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> Regards

>>
>> I got this video when I searched Jan Sibelius, too.
>>
> 
> I thought that there could have been a bit more specular mapping over 
> the sea in the opening sequence. :-)
> 

Indeed. You can well see that it was not rendered with POV-Ray. :-)

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Thomas

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Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> On 02/11/2017 10:08, And wrote:
> > Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> >> On 01/11/2017 08:04, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> >>> [wip]
> >>>
> >>
> >> Brrr! It's cold outside.
> >>
> >>
> >>> I suggest some music by Jan Sibelius.
> >>>
> >>
> >> It's got to be Finlandia, then. ;-)
> >> The video below has some nice images.
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5zg_af9b8c
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>       Stephen
> >
> > I got this video when I searched Jan Sibelius, too.
> >
>
> I thought that there could have been a bit more specular mapping over
> the sea in the opening sequence. :-)
>
> --
>
> Regards
>      Stephen


You distinguished it at a glance.

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