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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Metal Monster entry
Date: 25 Jun 2016 07:30:28
Message: <576e6b54@news.povray.org>
On 25-6-2016 10:28, Doctor John wrote:
> On 25/06/16 07:47, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> ... I don't
>> remember about that from my chats in little villages (taverns) at that
>> time...
>>
>
> ... though the wine and the brandy de Jerez may have clouded your memory
> somewhat ;-)
>

That too indeed. 'Vino de Jumilla' was the local wine (3 pesetas the 
glass). The brandy... no. That was awful.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: Metal Monster entry
Date: 25 Jun 2016 14:25:44
Message: <576ecca8@news.povray.org>
El 25/06/16 a las 13:30, Thomas de Groot escribió:
> That too indeed. 'Vino de Jumilla' was the local wine (3 pesetas the
> glass). The brandy... no. That was awful.
>

   3 pesetas? ...that must have been before I had the legal age to drink.
I'm not sure I was even born when wine was so cheap...

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jaime


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Metal Monster entry
Date: 26 Jun 2016 02:45:11
Message: <576f79f7$1@news.povray.org>
On 25-6-2016 20:25, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> El 25/06/16 a las 13:30, Thomas de Groot escribió:
>> That too indeed. 'Vino de Jumilla' was the local wine (3 pesetas the
>> glass). The brandy... no. That was awful.
>>
>
>   3 pesetas? ...that must have been before I had the legal age to drink.
> I'm not sure I was even born when wine was so cheap...
>

End 60's early 70's and not on the coast or in the cities obviously but 
in the small villages in the Province of Murcia. The quality of the wine 
was not, hm, something to remember, but it was the cheapest. Better (for 
your guts) was to drink wine at 5 to 10 pesetas the glass.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Metal Monster entry
Date: 26 Jun 2016 08:19:59
Message: <576fc86f$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/06/16 07:45, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 25-6-2016 20:25, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
>> El 25/06/16 a las 13:30, Thomas de Groot escribió:
>>> That too indeed. 'Vino de Jumilla' was the local wine (3 pesetas the
>>> glass). The brandy... no. That was awful.
>>>
>>
>>   3 pesetas? ...that must have been before I had the legal age to drink.
>> I'm not sure I was even born when wine was so cheap...
>>
> 
> End 60's early 70's and not on the coast or in the cities obviously but
> in the small villages in the Province of Murcia. The quality of the wine
> was not, hm, something to remember, but it was the cheapest. Better (for
> your guts) was to drink wine at 5 to 10 pesetas the glass.
> 

Ah yes. The price range compares favourably with that in the White
Mountains in Crete at the same time.

John (remembering his impoverished student days)
-- 
It's not about bravery.
It's about doing what I need to do to win


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Metal Monster entry
Date: 26 Jun 2016 08:50:27
Message: <576fcf93@news.povray.org>
On 6/26/2016 1:19 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> On 26/06/16 07:45, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 25-6-2016 20:25, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
>>> El 25/06/16 a las 13:30, Thomas de Groot escribió:
>>>> That too indeed. 'Vino de Jumilla' was the local wine (3 pesetas the
>>>> glass). The brandy... no. That was awful.
>>>>
>>>
>>>    3 pesetas? ...that must have been before I had the legal age to drink.
>>> I'm not sure I was even born when wine was so cheap...
>>>
>>
>> End 60's early 70's and not on the coast or in the cities obviously but
>> in the small villages in the Province of Murcia. The quality of the wine
>> was not, hm, something to remember, but it was the cheapest. Better (for
>> your guts) was to drink wine at 5 to 10 pesetas the glass.
>>
>
> Ah yes. The price range compares favourably with that in the White
> Mountains in Crete at the same time.
>
> John (remembering his impoverished student days)
>

Strangely, I can't remember the cost of every drink I've bought. :-P

My first pint was about 1/10 or 1/11 (less than ten pence in SI units).
After that it all blends into the background.
As it should. :)

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Metal Monster entry
Date: 26 Jun 2016 08:59:04
Message: <576fd198$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/06/16 13:50, Stephen wrote:
> 
> Strangely, I can't remember the cost of every drink I've bought. :-P
> 

Why? There can't have been that many :-D

John (ducks and covers)
-- 
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It's about doing what I need to do to win


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Metal Monster entry
Date: 26 Jun 2016 09:09:03
Message: <576fd3ef$1@news.povray.org>
On 6/26/2016 1:59 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> On 26/06/16 13:50, Stephen wrote:
>>
>> Strangely, I can't remember the cost of every drink I've bought. :-P
>>
>
> Why? There can't have been that many :-D
>

True, true. Little ol teetotaller, me.


> John (ducks and covers)
>

Strange man. What!

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Metal Monster entry
Date: 27 Jun 2016 02:42:44
Message: <5770cae4$1@news.povray.org>
On 26-6-2016 14:19, Doctor John wrote:
> On 26/06/16 07:45, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 25-6-2016 20:25, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
>>> El 25/06/16 a las 13:30, Thomas de Groot escribió:
>>>> That too indeed. 'Vino de Jumilla' was the local wine (3 pesetas the
>>>> glass). The brandy... no. That was awful.
>>>>
>>>
>>>   3 pesetas? ...that must have been before I had the legal age to drink.
>>> I'm not sure I was even born when wine was so cheap...
>>>
>>
>> End 60's early 70's and not on the coast or in the cities obviously but
>> in the small villages in the Province of Murcia. The quality of the wine
>> was not, hm, something to remember, but it was the cheapest. Better (for
>> your guts) was to drink wine at 5 to 10 pesetas the glass.
>>
>
> Ah yes. The price range compares favourably with that in the White
> Mountains in Crete at the same time.
>
> John (remembering his impoverished student days)
>

And probably you remember how small the glasses were, compared to the 
fish bowls you are presented with nowadays (only partly filled) 
supposedly to keep the /aroma/! Bunch of snobs!

Fortunately, were where /there/ for a reason and so we had a financial 
subsidy from the university to help us empty the local bottles :-)

-- 
Thomas


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: Metal Monster entry
Date: 27 Jun 2016 07:38:23
Message: <5771102f$1@news.povray.org>
El 26/06/16 a las 08:45, Thomas de Groot escribió:
> End 60's early 70's and not on the coast or in the cities obviously
> but in the small villages in the Province of Murcia. The quality of
> the wine was not, hm, something to remember, but it was the cheapest.
> Better (for your guts) was to drink wine at 5 to 10 pesetas the
> glass.
>

   That explains it all: I was 5-6 years old back then... ;)

   Also, Murcia was (and perhaps still is) one of the cheapest places in
Spain. And back in the 60's and 70's, the good ones were reserved for
export, so what you tasted locally was most surely bulk wine.

--
jaime


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Metal Monster entry
Date: 28 Jun 2016 02:49:02
Message: <57721dde$1@news.povray.org>
On 27-6-2016 13:38, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> El 26/06/16 a las 08:45, Thomas de Groot escribió:
>> End 60's early 70's and not on the coast or in the cities obviously
>> but in the small villages in the Province of Murcia. The quality of
>> the wine was not, hm, something to remember, but it was the cheapest.
>> Better (for your guts) was to drink wine at 5 to 10 pesetas the
>> glass.
>>
>
>   That explains it all: I was 5-6 years old back then... ;)

Yes, a bit young to start on the nectar of the gods perhaps ;-)

>
>   Also, Murcia was (and perhaps still is) one of the cheapest places in
> Spain. And back in the 60's and 70's, the good ones were reserved for
> export, so what you tasted locally was most surely bulk wine.
>

Absolutely. It was about average in general if you avoided the really 
cheap ones. Still, even locally, the Jumilla brand was considered 'good' 
wine in comparison with the other regions of Spain. There was no one to 
contradict of course, and certainly not the itinerant shepherds or the 
'fruteros', the seasonal fruit pickers, that came from outside the 
province. They were glad to get the wine cheap.

-- 
Thomas


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