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On 6/24/2016 8:33 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 24-6-2016 9:16, Stephen wrote:
>> On 6/24/2016 7:55 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> I do remember seeing whitewash on tree bases indeed. I don't know how
>>> effective that might be.
>>
>> You might be remembering a leftover from WWII. In Britain we whitewashed
>> the bases of trees that were next to roads. It made them more visible to
>> headlights that were shuttered due to the blackout.
>
> Yes indeed, now that you mention it. I think that was also done in other
> countries. I recall them at least from France.
>
But they would not have had a blackout in the USA.
I found this:
http://homeguides.sfgate.com/whitewash-tree-63606.html
>>
>>
>>> It may be something like the blue paint around
>>> windows in Mediterranean countries to keep flies from coming in.
>>
>> I didn't know that.
>>
>
> I have always wondered about it.
>
Here is a different reason from Greece:
http://www.greecetravel.com/archaeology/mitsopoulou/blue.html
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 24-6-2016 10:02, Stephen wrote:
> On 6/24/2016 8:33 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 24-6-2016 9:16, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 6/24/2016 7:55 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>> I do remember seeing whitewash on tree bases indeed. I don't know how
>>>> effective that might be.
>>>
>>> You might be remembering a leftover from WWII. In Britain we whitewashed
>>> the bases of trees that were next to roads. It made them more visible to
>>> headlights that were shuttered due to the blackout.
>>
>> Yes indeed, now that you mention it. I think that was also done in other
>> countries. I recall them at least from France.
>>
>
> But they would not have had a blackout in the USA.
> I found this:
> http://homeguides.sfgate.com/whitewash-tree-63606.html
I suppose there are different uses, this being one of them. At least the
trees lining roads make sense even after the war when car lights and
road lights were not what they are now. Many trees lining roads have
been cut down since the fifties because they generated too many accidents.
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>> It may be something like the blue paint around
>>>> windows in Mediterranean countries to keep flies from coming in.
>>>
>>> I didn't know that.
>>>
>>
>> I have always wondered about it.
>>
>
> Here is a different reason from Greece:
> http://www.greecetravel.com/archaeology/mitsopoulou/blue.html
>
I think this is spot on. I think I was told in Spain, many years ago,
about the flies, but either the 'evil' connotation was lost, or 'flies'
were assimilated to evil (not without reason), or they pulled my leg ;-)
--
Thomas
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El 24/06/16 a las 13:15, Thomas de Groot escribió:
> I think this is spot on. I think I was told in Spain, many years ago,
> about the flies, but either the 'evil' connotation was lost, or
> 'flies' were assimilated to evil (not without reason), or they pulled
> my leg ;-)
>
No, they really believed what they told you: it's a belief around
south Spain, although I think it really has no scientific base. For the
same or a similar reason, they recommend to put plastic bags filled with
water hanging from the ceiling.
--
jaime
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On 24-6-2016 18:56, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> El 24/06/16 a las 13:15, Thomas de Groot escribió:
>> I think this is spot on. I think I was told in Spain, many years ago,
>> about the flies, but either the 'evil' connotation was lost, or
>> 'flies' were assimilated to evil (not without reason), or they pulled
>> my leg ;-)
>>
>
> No, they really believed what they told you: it's a belief around
> south Spain, although I think it really has no scientific base. For the
> same or a similar reason, they recommend to put plastic bags filled with
> water hanging from the ceiling.
>
So, I remembered correctly. I was told about 50 years ago and I mistrust
those ancient reminiscences sometimes ;-)
I guess the believe has been generated from the ancient evil-banning
belief being frown upon by the Church and transferred to flies instead.
And maybe flies are considered personifications of the devil. I don't
remember about that from my chats in little villages (taverns) at that
time...
--
Thomas
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On 25/06/16 07:47, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> ... I don't
> remember about that from my chats in little villages (taverns) at that
> time...
>
... though the wine and the brandy de Jerez may have clouded your memory
somewhat ;-)
John
--
It's not about bravery.
It's about doing what I need to do to win
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On 25-6-2016 10:28, Doctor John wrote:
> On 25/06/16 07:47, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> ... I don't
>> remember about that from my chats in little villages (taverns) at that
>> time...
>>
>
> ... though the wine and the brandy de Jerez may have clouded your memory
> somewhat ;-)
>
That too indeed. 'Vino de Jumilla' was the local wine (3 pesetas the
glass). The brandy... no. That was awful.
--
Thomas
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El 25/06/16 a las 13:30, Thomas de Groot escribió:
> That too indeed. 'Vino de Jumilla' was the local wine (3 pesetas the
> glass). The brandy... no. That was awful.
>
3 pesetas? ...that must have been before I had the legal age to drink.
I'm not sure I was even born when wine was so cheap...
--
jaime
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On 25-6-2016 20:25, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> El 25/06/16 a las 13:30, Thomas de Groot escribió:
>> That too indeed. 'Vino de Jumilla' was the local wine (3 pesetas the
>> glass). The brandy... no. That was awful.
>>
>
> 3 pesetas? ...that must have been before I had the legal age to drink.
> I'm not sure I was even born when wine was so cheap...
>
End 60's early 70's and not on the coast or in the cities obviously but
in the small villages in the Province of Murcia. The quality of the wine
was not, hm, something to remember, but it was the cheapest. Better (for
your guts) was to drink wine at 5 to 10 pesetas the glass.
--
Thomas
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On 26/06/16 07:45, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 25-6-2016 20:25, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
>> El 25/06/16 a las 13:30, Thomas de Groot escribió:
>>> That too indeed. 'Vino de Jumilla' was the local wine (3 pesetas the
>>> glass). The brandy... no. That was awful.
>>>
>>
>> 3 pesetas? ...that must have been before I had the legal age to drink.
>> I'm not sure I was even born when wine was so cheap...
>>
>
> End 60's early 70's and not on the coast or in the cities obviously but
> in the small villages in the Province of Murcia. The quality of the wine
> was not, hm, something to remember, but it was the cheapest. Better (for
> your guts) was to drink wine at 5 to 10 pesetas the glass.
>
Ah yes. The price range compares favourably with that in the White
Mountains in Crete at the same time.
John (remembering his impoverished student days)
--
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On 6/26/2016 1:19 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> On 26/06/16 07:45, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 25-6-2016 20:25, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
>>> El 25/06/16 a las 13:30, Thomas de Groot escribió:
>>>> That too indeed. 'Vino de Jumilla' was the local wine (3 pesetas the
>>>> glass). The brandy... no. That was awful.
>>>>
>>>
>>> 3 pesetas? ...that must have been before I had the legal age to drink.
>>> I'm not sure I was even born when wine was so cheap...
>>>
>>
>> End 60's early 70's and not on the coast or in the cities obviously but
>> in the small villages in the Province of Murcia. The quality of the wine
>> was not, hm, something to remember, but it was the cheapest. Better (for
>> your guts) was to drink wine at 5 to 10 pesetas the glass.
>>
>
> Ah yes. The price range compares favourably with that in the White
> Mountains in Crete at the same time.
>
> John (remembering his impoverished student days)
>
Strangely, I can't remember the cost of every drink I've bought. :-P
My first pint was about 1/10 or 1/11 (less than ten pence in SI units).
After that it all blends into the background.
As it should. :)
--
Regards
Stephen
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