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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: Cave concept
Date: 2 Mar 2016 12:55:58
Message: <56d7292e$1@news.povray.org>

> A vast improvement, and I'm glad you found a few places to speed up
> the render.

   Thanks. I just found a way to speed it up a lot: meshrelief.inc by
Bill Pragnell:

http://www.infradead.org/~wmp/macro_meshrelief.html

   Just another thing I somehow missed until today.

> It will be interesting to see your textures, contrasts and myriad
> thoughtful enhancements as this progresses.

   And a lot of fun for me, no doubt... :)

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jaime


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: Cave concept
Date: 2 Mar 2016 13:01:40
Message: <56d72a84$1@news.povray.org>
El 02/03/16 a las 16:00, Sven Littkowski escribió:
> Just - the large crystal in the left foreground is somehow lost and
> not fitting (all others are).

   The crystals where thrown at random, and should have keep them out at
this moment of the development, but could not resist.

> And another observation: all stalactites and -mites have too much the
> same triangular shape. When I was in caves, I observed some which
> were like irregular columns, not so triangular.

   Yes, specially stalagmites should be more round and irregular.

> Hmmm, what about a few fluorescent tiny insects or worms, seen just
> as dim greenish-yellow light  dots in the darker areas?   :-D

   Maybe... sounds nice, but don't know if the effect would be really
recognizable.

> Or somewhere a part of a hidden treasure chest (not leveled but a
> bit diagonal in its positioning), open and full of gold coins of
> which some came out and lay on the ground around it?
>

   That would be way too typical, I guess... but who knows what I will
find there? :)

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jaime


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: Cave concept
Date: 2 Mar 2016 17:40:25
Message: <56d76bd9$1@news.povray.org>


> http://www.infradead.org/~wmp/macro_meshrelief.html

   I just had to add: WOW! What a piece of work!

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jaime


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From: dick balaska
Subject: Re: Cave concept
Date: 2 Mar 2016 18:05:19
Message: <56d771af$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/2/2016 5:40 PM, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:

>
>> http://www.infradead.org/~wmp/macro_meshrelief.html
>
>    I just had to add: WOW! What a piece of work!

That site is pretty impressive.
Awesome stone here (but I don't like the girl)
http://www.infradead.org/~wmp/gallery6/beforeafter.jpg

But I love the girl here
http://www.infradead.org/~wmp/gallery6/ghostlight.jpg

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dik


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Cave concept
Date: 4 Mar 2016 23:44:18
Message: <56da6422$1@news.povray.org>
Surprise us! :-)

On 02.03.2016 13:01, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
>   That would be way too typical, I guess... but who knows what I will
> find there? :)


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: Cave concept
Date: 5 Mar 2016 04:06:00
Message: <56daa178@news.povray.org>
Nothing really new in a visual sense, but this image uses now meshes
instead isosurfaces, thanks to meshrelief.inc by Bill Pragnell. Maybe
the detail is not as great, but is very similar and the render time has
dropped insanely (this one has bigger size, more objects, focal blur,
and it renders just under half an hour). Maybe now I will be able to add
translucency and some wet-surfaces effect.

(Yes, I know I overdid the focal blur and it looks like a toy cave... :)

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jaime


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Cave concept
Date: 5 Mar 2016 04:11:57
Message: <56daa2dd$1@news.povray.org>
On 5-3-2016 10:05, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> Nothing really new in a visual sense, but this image uses now meshes
> instead isosurfaces, thanks to meshrelief.inc by Bill Pragnell. Maybe
> the detail is not as great, but is very similar and the render time has
> dropped insanely (this one has bigger size, more objects, focal blur,
> and it renders just under half an hour). Maybe now I will be able to add
> translucency and some wet-surfaces effect.
>
> (Yes, I know I overdid the focal blur and it looks like a toy cave... :)
>

I love toy caves. ;-) This one looks very believable. Good job indeed. 
It has been some time since I used meshrelief last but it is a nice and 
useful tool.

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Thomas


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From: dick balaska
Subject: Re: Cave concept
Date: 5 Mar 2016 04:57:31
Message: <56daad8b$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/5/2016 4:05 AM, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
>  and it looks like a toy cave... :)

It does.  It looks like something Aardman would build.


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dik


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: Cave concept
Date: 6 Mar 2016 12:29:58
Message: <56dc6916@news.povray.org>
Trying the rocks/stalagmites/stalactites code on a different cave with a
bit more complex geometry. Works, but tracing from a central point isn't
the best method for the rocks... will try hg-povray next for a different
approach.

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jaime


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Cave concept
Date: 6 Mar 2016 21:56:55
Message: <56dcedf7@news.povray.org>
Yes, the structures certainly have improved a lot! I like it. Try to use
less stalactites and -mites in the middle, or shorter ones, so the view
to the illuminated part is better.


On 05.03.2016 04:05, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> Nothing really new in a visual sense, but this image uses now meshes
> instead isosurfaces, thanks to meshrelief.inc by Bill Pragnell. Maybe
> the detail is not as great, but is very similar and the render time has
> dropped insanely (this one has bigger size, more objects, focal blur,
> and it renders just under half an hour). Maybe now I will be able to add
> translucency and some wet-surfaces effect.
> 
> (Yes, I know I overdid the focal blur and it looks like a toy cave... :)
> 
> -- 
> jaime


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