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From: Jim Charter
Subject: [52 Kb]
Date: 31 May 2005 12:27:44
Message: <429c9080@news.povray.org>


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: [52 Kb]
Date: 31 May 2005 12:50:19
Message: <429c95cb$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter wrote:
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It doesn't look like 52kb, But sure looks like a nice ornate frame... :D

-- 
~Mike

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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: [52 Kb]
Date: 31 May 2005 14:03:34
Message: <429ca6f6$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:
> Jim Charter wrote:
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> It doesn't look like 52kb, But sure looks like a nice ornate frame... :D
> 
Hee Hee, but it's "[52 Kb]" not merely "52 Kb"


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: [52 Kb]
Date: 31 May 2005 14:11:02
Message: <429ca8b6$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter wrote:
> Mike Raiford wrote:
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>> Jim Charter wrote:
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>> It doesn't look like 52kb, But sure looks like a nice ornate frame... :D
>>
> Hee Hee, but it's "[52 Kb]" not merely "52 Kb"

Ohhhhhh, I get it 52Kb in a frame ;)

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~Mike

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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: [52 Kb]
Date: 31 May 2005 14:32:31
Message: <429cadbf@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:
> Jim Charter wrote:
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>> Mike Raiford wrote:
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>>> Jim Charter wrote:
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>>> It doesn't look like 52kb, But sure looks like a nice ornate frame... :D
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>> Hee Hee, but it's "[52 Kb]" not merely "52 Kb"
> 
> 
> Ohhhhhh, I get it 52Kb in a frame ;)
> 
Don't let it happen again.  We take our art pretty serious around here 
you know.


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From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Re: [52 Kb]
Date: 1 Jun 2005 11:05:54
Message: <429dced2$1@news.povray.org>
Looks really good.  I remember you posting a frame awhile back (maybe a year 
ago?)

I really like the fact that you've made it look a little old/dented.  Also, 
while we can't actually see the light source, the reflections look great. 
Was this HDRI?


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: [52 Kb]
Date: 1 Jun 2005 12:36:21
Message: <429de405$1@news.povray.org>
Jeremy M. Praay wrote:
> Looks really good.  I remember you posting a frame awhile back (maybe a year 
> ago?)
> 
> I really like the fact that you've made it look a little old/dented.  Also, 
> while we can't actually see the light source, the reflections look great. 
> Was this HDRI?
> 
> 
No HDRI. Default background. Lighting/camera are very simple, didn't 
even use radiosity here, just a touch of ambient. (An earlier one had a 
fly-blown appearance do to abusive use of area light.) Perspective camera.

The outer proportion of the frame is the starting point and then the 
frame is compounded inward from primitives.  (Working from the aspect 
ratio of what would be the framed area as the starting point, then 
building outward, would be a somewhat different thing, and, who knows, 
might lead to different frame "designs".)

Simplicity is what this is all about.  The texture is quite simple too. 
  On this one I removed the reflection. What you are seeing is the high 
specular. The dents are, you guessed it, dents.  The color striations 
are scaled granite + crackle. There is of course the old conceptual play 
of making the frame the subject.  What I was joking around with Mike about.


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From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Re: [52 Kb]
Date: 1 Jun 2005 13:18:11
Message: <429dedd3@news.povray.org>
"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote in message 
news:429de405$1@news.povray.org...
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> Simplicity is what this is all about.  The texture is quite simple too. On 
> this one I removed the reflection. What you are seeing is the high 
> specular.

I guess perhaps I've been away from POV for too long.  The specular really 
looks good to me.  :-)

> The dents are, you guessed it, dents.  The color striations are scaled 
> granite + crackle. There is of course the old conceptual play of making 
> the frame the subject.  What I was joking around with Mike about.

Ahhh... Even though I often use subtle humor, that doesn't mean that I often 
"get it" when others do.  :-)


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: [52 Kb]
Date: 1 Jun 2005 14:05:41
Message: <429df8f5$1@news.povray.org>
Jeremy M. Praay wrote:

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> I guess perhaps I've been away from POV for too long.  The specular really 
> looks good to me.  :-)
> 

Thanks

> 
>>The dents are, you guessed it, dents.  The color striations are scaled 
>>granite + crackle. There is of course the old conceptual play of making 
>>the frame the subject.  What I was joking around with Mike about.
> 
> 
> Ahhh... Even though I often use subtle humor, that doesn't mean that I often 
> "get it" when others do.  :-) 
> 
> 

Some scholars maintain that the title/file weight is actually a subtley 
disguised,  self-reference to the actual number of components used to 
model the *inner* frame.  But the artist denies any connection claiming 
it is merely coincidence.


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From: Shay
Subject: Re: [52 Kb]
Date: 1 Jun 2005 15:38:43
Message: <429e0ec3$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter wrote:
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Very nice. I have always loved these kinds of "fractals" (not sure if 
that's accurate) which change element aspect ratio due to a consistent 
wall thickness. I remember writing my name on graph paper as a kid and 
tracing a spiral around while the outline became closer to a rectangle 
with each pass.

I have hilighted this aspect ratio change in the past with diagonals in 
the elements. This of course means layers, so the nesting effect is 
destroyed.

  -Shay


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