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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: autobahn [107K]
Date: 29 Apr 2005 12:15:46
Message: <42725db2$1@news.povray.org>
Christoph Hormann wrote:
> Apart from that great image of course.

I spent a minute trying to figure out if it was a photo with cars 
patched in or if it was a whole scene. I think an area light to soften 
the shadows (esp. the power-line shadows) would make it virtually 
impossible to tell.

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     You have to wonder what Mr. Smucker
     thought of that tag line, don't you?


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From: Sylvain
Subject: Re: autobahn [107K]
Date: 29 Apr 2005 13:30:00
Message: <web.42726ea6ac0e29cf41d503f90@news.povray.org>
This is really amazing ! Maybe a hitch-hicker on the side of the road or
some out of place animal would give the picture a feeling of loneliness...
And perhaps some birds on the power cables ?
Aren't the sign and power cables shadows a bit too sharp ? This is just to
say something ;o)
One could almost hear the cars passing by...
Sylvain


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From: St 
Subject: Re: autobahn [107K]
Date: 29 Apr 2005 14:15:07
Message: <427279ab@news.povray.org>
Jaime - that is just great! Well done.

  My only crits, (I'm a fine one to talk!)  ;) would be that the road lines 
could be a little dirtier,  and I think I would add some off-yellow and grey 
foliage under the bushes in that central reservation .

 Man, I must learn your lighting system too.

   ~Steve~


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From: Emerald Orchid
Subject: Re: autobahn [107K]
Date: 29 Apr 2005 15:54:11
Message: <427290e3$1@news.povray.org>
What the hell...?

I swear, a few more years and we're not going to be able to tell reality
from CG... 8^0


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From: Larry Hudson
Subject: Re: autobahn [107K]
Date: 29 Apr 2005 22:06:45
Message: <4272e835$1@news.povray.org>
B. Gimeno wrote:
> The radar of the road patrol shows that the green car on the left was
> running over the speed limit.

I spent a year in Germany while in the (US) army in the early 60's. 
There was no speed limit on the autobahns.  :-)    Ordinary streets yes, 
autobhan no.

Of course, being 45 years ago, this may have changed by now.  Our German 
friends in these newsgroups can correct me if this is so.  ;-)

Since there were no hostilities at that time, it was a very enjoyable 
year.  (Except for the "annoyance" of being merely a private in the 
military.)   :-(

 > Good job and nice photo!

I agree, this is a great image.

      -=- Larry -=-


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From: Anton Sherwood
Subject: Re: autobahn [107K]
Date: 30 Apr 2005 02:04:13
Message: <42731fdd$1@news.povray.org>
Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> casually was listening a song with that refrain: "paskire birebire
> bodavida". It means nothing from what I know: the author, Santi
> Ibarretxe, is an insane musician who invents improvised lyrics for his
> psycho-funky-dadaist(?) songs.

So it's not Basque?

-- 
Anton Sherwood, http://www.ogre.nu/


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: autobahn [107K]
Date: 30 Apr 2005 04:56:05
Message: <42734825@news.povray.org>
Anton Sherwood wrote:
> So it's not Basque?
> 

   Mostly not... :) There are only a few real Euskera words, like there
are also a few real Spanish, English, Italian, Portuguese, etc... but
they rarely form a coherent sentence. Most of the vocals are just
improvised syllables put together with no message, letting you enjoy the
harmony (which is brilliant), and that is really a pleasant discovery
for a fan of instrumental music like me.

--
Jaime


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: autobahn [107K]
Date: 30 Apr 2005 05:11:46
Message: <42734bd2$1@news.povray.org>
Christoph Hormann wrote:
> So it is supposed to be a German 'Autobahn'

   Not really, but many of the reference pics I found on the net were
from the German autobahn, and being an old Kraftwerk fan, the title for
the scene was clear.

> - a few notes on realism there:
> 
> - the white strip at the outer (right) side of the road seperating it
>  from the 'Standstreifen' usually is much broader than the other 
> interrupted strips.

   Yes, and not only in Germany. I'm still using the first material_map I
painted to test the technique. I'm planing to create a better version
with another POV scene instead painting it: I'm really bad hand painting
the little details...

> - those white (plastic) posts on the side of the road have the black
>  strip at the top going upward from inner to outer side.

   That object was also a quick placeholder... but thanks for pointing
that it looks too fake.

> - the trees are quite large and no german road authority would allow
>  such large and old trees to grow that near to a highway. ;-)

   Yes, I think I exaggerated the size perhaps a bit... :)

> Apart from that great image of course.

   Thanks!

--
Jaime


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: autobahn [107K]
Date: 30 Apr 2005 05:25:36
Message: <42734f10$1@news.povray.org>
Sylvain wrote:
> This is really amazing !

   Thanks!

> Maybe a hitch-hicker on the side of the road or some out of place 
> animal would give the picture a feeling of loneliness...
> And perhaps some birds on the power cables ?

   These are good suggestions, and actually, I didn't even think on many 
of them... I like specially the birds idea: it should not be that hard 
to create some silhouettes with Wings3D.

> Aren't the sign and power cables shadows a bit too sharp ? 

   Yes, Darren and others also pointed it out... but I forgot to tell 
this was only a WIP.

> One could almost hear the cars passing by... 

   I recommend using "Autobahn" by Kraftwerk as background music for 
this scene, of course.

--
Jaime


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: autobahn [107K]
Date: 30 Apr 2005 05:29:50
Message: <4273500e$1@news.povray.org>
Zeger Knaepen wrote:
> Well, for something like that, it's not that hard: the road can be just a plane
> with the image projection_map'ed onto it:

   That's very interesting, and should have an use also for other 
experiments on my to-do list. I always wondered how this was done, but 
never would have figured it out myself... many thanks!

--
Jaime


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